KCLUG April 2005

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Re: $100 laptop running Linux
by Brian Kelsay 07 Apr '05

07 Apr '05

You may be able to find a 100-300MHz on ebay for around a hundred. I actually have a working 120MHz w/ 32MB that I would let go for $100. It has a good screen (no bad pixels that I recall), great speakers, I'll throw a 2GB drive in and a 3COM NIC. Only problem will be getting the sound chip working. It's a Yamaha OPL3-Sax. There is a driver, but it takes some work to get it going. I may later have some other laptops for sale, but I have to test, etc. Brian Kelsay >>> djgoku <> 04/07/05 10:30AM >>> On Apr 7, 2005 10:18 AM, Leo Mauler <> wrote: > Now all I need is a few of those available here... :( > > I have a $60 laptop running Linux but I doubt those > $100 machines in Third World Countries are as low-end > as P90 laptops with 16MB RAM. I have a P75 w/ 8MB RAM card, with OBSD, the card looks similar to a pcmcia card but is for ram =). Runs kinda sllow =), I wish you could find a >500Mhz for $100.

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Re: $100 laptop running Linux
by Leo Mauler 07 Apr '05

07 Apr '05

Now all I need is a few of those available here... :( I have a $60 laptop running Linux but I doubt those $100 machines in Third World Countries are as low-end as P90 laptops with 16MB RAM. --- JARiley(a)dstsystems.com wrote: > for third world children. http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/ptech/04/04/hundred.dollar.laptops.ap/index.ht… __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com

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Re: Update: was RE: Linux Audio "VCR"?
by Leo Mauler 07 Apr '05

07 Apr '05

The Ecasound project someone else did with a USB-controlled radio, used the date function in just the same way your script does it. I'll have to add that one in to the command, then figure out this "at" thingy. Incidentally, what is the command for viewing the list of "at" jobs pending? Obviously in cron you've already created a list using crontab which you can view with crontab as well, but I have never used the "at" command and don't know how it works. It does sound like "at" is the thing to use for these occasional recordings. Since "A Prairie Home Companion" sometimes repeats itself, its not always something I would want to record weekly. --- Jon Pruente <jdpruente(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I use the 'date' command under FreeBSD & csh to have > unique daily > wardriving logs: > > sudo dstumbler wi0 -m 60 -l ~/ds.log.`date +%Y%m%d` > -g /dev/cuaa0 -s > > Note the use of ` and not ' as the quote charater > for the embedded > command. I'm not positive of the use under your > sheel of choice, but > this gives me logs with names like ds.log.20050228 > so they sort by > date very well. > > Jon > > On Apr 3, 2005 9:59 AM, Leo Mauler > <webgiant(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > I'm still working out the MP3 tag commands in > LAME, as > > well as scripting the whole thing into using > unique > > filenames so I could leave it for two weeks > without > > overwriting the first week's recording. > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com

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Re: Storage drive problems
by Jack 07 Apr '05

07 Apr '05

Hmmm... this is disturbing a function that does something when the software is not installed rather than complain that the software isn't installed. This sounds like a flaw to me. Very disturbing. --- Justin Dugger wrote: > > ... After an IRC brainstorming session, I discovered > that the > reiserfsprogs had not been installed. As naive > user, I had assumed > that if I had access to a functioning program like > mkfs.reiserfs, then > that was all I needed. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: Storage drive problems
by Brian Kelsay 07 Apr '05

07 Apr '05

Should send a comment/bug report to the Debian Reiserfs pkg maintainers about a lack of dependency. Unless of course mkfs is able to make/format many filesystem types, whether installed or not. If you try to use jfs or xfs, please check that the tools for that filesystem are installed before hitting the panic button. ;-) 42. Brian Kelsay >>> Jack <> 04/06/05 11:09PM >>> Hmmm... this is disturbing a function that does something when the software is not installed rather than complain that the software isn't installed. This sounds like a flaw to me. Very disturbing. --- Justin Dugger wrote: > > ... After an IRC brainstorming session, I discovered > that the > reiserfsprogs had not been installed. As naive > user, I had assumed > that if I had access to a functioning program like > mkfs.reiserfs, then > that was all I needed. http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug

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NIST Amusements
by Jonathan Hutchins 06 Apr '05

06 Apr '05

Someone on IRC yesterday pointed out an interesting phenomenon that made it to some news services today. It seems that if you telnet to port 78 or 79 of most Gov't time servers, you will get an amusing little result like this: D: D: My name is Doris: and my husband's name is David: We come from Denver: and we sell Dates:: 322-586-251-282-774-922-637 $ 0 1654 3000 8 1 0 0 or W: W: My name is Wanda: and my husband's name is William: We come from Washington: and we sell Water Melon:: 342-819-481-282-802-924-238 $ 0 1930 3000 8 1 0 0 Port 79 may ring a bell with some of you, that's the old "finger" protocol, from the days when the internet was about information wanting to be free. Here's the explanation, from Judah Levine of the Time and Frequency Divison, NIST Boulder: > 1. The first text is a pseudo-random text designed to confuse automated search engines (note the strategic colons). There are 16 poems and they are sent in a random sequence. The text is derived from a jump-rope game and has no special meaning. > 2. The remaining digits provide internal information on the operation of the server and are used for automated remote monitoring. All NIST servers do this. > 3. Most of the digits relate to complicated internal parameters. However, the first 3 values after the $ sign are easy to explain the first is the overall state of the server (0=ok,>0=various failures) the second is the time since the server was last calibrated (in sec), and the third is the nominal interval between calibrations (in sec) the remaining parameters have to do with the internal clock control of the system. Rats. No secret codes to speak of.

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Priceless quotes abound
by Brian Kelsay 06 Apr '05

06 Apr '05

This article at /. about Bit Keeper withdrawing it's free Linux client, BitMover, yields some great fodder for the GPL and FOSS movement. Good stuff, pro and con. We can chew it over at tonight's meeting. http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/04/06/140202&tid=163&tid=8… Re:Take aim at foot, Fire! (Score:3, Insightful) by drooling-dog (189103) on Wednesday April 06, @10:35AM (#12154579) Another good cannonball in the open-vs-closed source debate. Not only can proprietary software turn around and screw you, it can actually single you out for screwing! Brian Kelsay

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Re: Storage drive problems
by Justin Dugger 06 Apr '05

06 Apr '05

> This wouldn't happen to be ONE file of size >4 GB would it? ope, although the file system claims its 3.6 and namesys's webpage declares that file size limits are ludicriously large, on the order of a terrabyte because of the page cache. This actually matters because in the future I might be buying myself a TV capture card, where these things matter, as I suspect you know. So, a bit of a status update. I did as BillC suggested and made a single partition 200GB in size. Strangely, I still get the same error =( Slightly different df though (irrelevant parts cut out): Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sda1 195352432 4124212 191228220 3% /mnt/reiser Cfdisk displays a single partition of type Linux ReiserFS, which seems appropriate. This is getting a bit annoying, copying things back and forth to test a 4 gigabyte limit. I didn't bother messing with the block size this time, and just used a straightup 'mkfs.reiserfs /dev/sda1' And I still get no space left after about 4 gigabytes! Justin Dugger

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Storage drive problems
by Justin Dugger 06 Apr '05

06 Apr '05

I brought this up around noon today on IRC, but I guess everyone was out to lunch =). I've recently formatted my shiny new SATA drive as ReiserFS, to try out a few new filesystems out. Since it was a 200GB drive, and I plan to use it mostly for storing large files, I thought it might be a bit faster if I used a larger block size, I used 4096 (although I'm not sure what the default is, at the time I assumed it was 1024). If you're interested in specific hardware details, I've attached the output from the program lshw. Beware that it isn't entirely accurate; one part I've noticed that's wrong is the socket type on my CPU. Anyways, my problem and reason for posting this is that I can't seem to store more than about 4 gigs on the drive. I can't create or move files to the drive. Example: jldugger@jldugger:~ $ mv lshw /mnt/reiser/ mv: writing `/mnt/reiser/lshw': No space left on device Some extra diagnostic information: jldugger@jldugger:~ $ df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/hda1 9410184 7957780 974388 90% / tmpfs 518296 0 518296 0% /dev/shm /dev/sda 195355016 4126812 191228204 3% /mnt/reiser jldugger@jldugger:~ $ du -sh /mnt/reiser 4.0G /mnt/reiser So, any ideas? One person suggested that I might be out of inodes, but it turns out that the standard tool didn't work (it listed all zeroes for total, used and free inodes on reiserfs). Justin Dugger

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Ignore the Question on ksh93 ...
by John Geiger 04 Apr '05

04 Apr '05

Hi All Figured out a way to do it since my last post (set -o vi in .profile) Thanks anyway! John M Geiger Instructor Foss Training Center (913) 322-7052 8700 State Line Road Suite 200 Leawood, KS 66206 www.FossTraining.com

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