October 2007 - KCLUG

What is involved in an "Open Standard" truly being so?
by Oren Beck 15 Nov '07

15 Nov '07

Open Standard. 2 words that are being abused or distorted.. Either singly or as a "self qualifying " term. Open means what it says and says what it means. As should Standard. So any tangible work or expressible code should either pass or fail examination for those terms BOTH applying. Either a Standard is Open and meets every criteria for that term applying or it is misused. Either something is in compliance with a Standard that passes the first test for being Open or it is neither. Thus a majority of what we have been misled are Open Standards are not. Oren Beck "Profiting from any part of restricting access to the totality of what defines a standard should be ethically suspect. See the intents of GPL for good reasons to adopt such an ethics position."

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Re: ITEC
by Leo Mauler 06 Nov '07

06 Nov '07

Considering that ITEC is November 7th & 8th, and today is the 3rd of October, the shipit order should go in somewhere around, oh, now. --- Brandon Holtsclaw <brandon(a)imbrandon.com> wrote: > I cant do the hardware this year but I wouldent > mind helping man the booth as the token Ubuntu > Dev as somone stated ;) and getting us the Ubuntu > CD's again this year. Let me know ASAP so I can > get a shipit order in. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7

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Fedora Server
by Earle Beason 31 Oct '07

31 Oct '07

quote ---------- From: Jonathan Hutchins <hutchins(a)tarcanfel.org> I have the install disks to do Ubuntu LTS, but I keep chickening out. Don't want to loose a weekend to it right now. ------------ In response I have a case under the the desk and the hard stuff tucked around the computer, If the weekend gets wasted, so do I........ I probably should clarify on the fedora server, it not something that will be running long. best measured in nano-seconds. I'm just playing around on the distros to familirise myself the ins and outs. When I get done doing the fedora distros, I probably do debian or centOs.

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"Making Things Talk" book
by David Nicol 31 Oct '07

31 Oct '07

Who asked for the review copy of Making Things Talk? It has arrived. -- The goal of the consumer is to avoid hearing from the advertiser. -- Seth Godin, IdeavirusReadandShare.pdf 2000

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Upgraded to Ubuntu 7.10, now resolution stuck at 1600x1200
by Leo Mauler 31 Oct '07

31 Oct '07

I just upgraded to Ubuntu 7.10. Now the screen resolution is stuck at 1600x1200. My monitor is straining to do this resolution and the screen is all bendy. I can't adjust the monitor itself to work with the new resolution as this monitor is shared between three other computers and would need to be readjusted back to the prior settings every time I pressed the KVM switch. I have been to System > Preferences > Screen Resolution. I pull down the menu and select the resolution which has always worked well, which is 1024x768. I press Apply. The screen resolution *does not change*, but I get a dialog box saying "do you want to keep this resolution or revert to the old resolution?" Selecting "keep this resolution" does not change the resolution to 1024x768. I've tried Ctrl-Alt-Shift + to change screen resolutions. For some reason 1024x768 is not an option in the list. I'm presuming that editing a config file is in order. I have no problem doing this and understand the need to back things up. However, I have only done XFree86 config files and don't know what to do with xorg. Incidentally, 1600x1200 has always been the resolution used by the graphical login screen. I've wanted to change the initial resolution to 1024x768 as well, but I don't know how to do that either. Frankly I just hate graphical login screens, but I can't do without my GUI for normal computer use. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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More Shills?
by Arthur Pemberton 31 Oct '07

31 Oct '07

Have you guys seen this? http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/10/30/2113200 -- Fedora 7 : sipping some of that moonshine ( www.pembo13.com )

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Fedora Server
by Earle Beason 30 Oct '07

30 Oct '07

I take the jab from LukeJr, and remind him of a previous conversation off line however the actual reason is "Why not?," When I figure out how do do it with fedora, I am going to scratch it and repeat for ubuntu, suze, BSD, and whatever else comes across my hands. I know they are all pretty much the same in theory, but I have been told Fedora is the worst way to go for a beginner, er that is outside of slackware and the whole compile the kernel as you go; but when I get to that level and have a question, I'll ask...... But thanks to those who gave a "educational" response

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Remote Application questions- may determine which Distro I use.
by Oren Beck 30 Oct '07

30 Oct '07

Simple concept: I have been running ramdisk Linux distros whan at home to compatibility check them. And waiting to make a selection based on which distro will best handle solving the below scenario. Is it practical to use a slow wireless notebook thru remote sessions at reasonable speed? The "Host" and notebook for those remote sessions is defined below as "Pertinent Details" Above all else- Web browsing that's not painful. Primary Need there. Dead last but would be nice: Remote word processing NOT Google docs but local with forms printing. As in to access/update a campground reservation program and docs for the same property. Pertinent details: I am now the owner of a CF-25 Toughbook armored notebook. P166,32 mb ram, 2gig hd. Not a screamer. But folks have had X and wireless working on these. 80% of my "at home" weekend is spent within local wifi of my home. Home link to "outside world" is DSL at 1.34down/793 up. That 793 being averaged but for the phase 2 of this concept posibily an issue. Home hardware is: a dual core 2.88ghz class machine that I can get 2gig of ram in. 200gig ATA drive currently XP only but getting a Linux distro pending this current issue's results. I have an 80 gig SATA drive to dedicate to this project if booting from a dedicated drive makes this easier. Oren Beck 816.632.3695 www.campdownunder.com

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Want to build a Super Computer Running Linux for less than $5,000?
by Phil Thayer 30 Oct '07

30 Oct '07

This is a really cool idea and actually puts some of the off the shelf technology to good use. http://blogs.zdnet.com/storage/?p=220&tag=nl.e539 Phillip C. Thayer Sr. System Engineer, Vital Support Systems 2700 Bi-State Dr. Suite 500 Kansas City, MO 64108 (816) 977-2220 - Desk (816) 985-0799 - Cell HP-UX / OpenVMS CSE ASE - HP StorageWorks APP - Enterprise Solutions APC - HP Ent. Storage Solutions/Superdome

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Fwd: ITEC/LUG
by Billy Crook 30 Oct '07

30 Oct '07

I'm forwarding in to the lug mailing list as I will not be able to attend ITEC. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Oct 30, 2007 11:06 AM Subject: Re: ITEC/LUG I'll be in Kansas City next week: Wed/Thu, to pitch Open Source at my sessions on both mornings. If you guys have a booth there, I'd like to convene my Open Source Camp there and get you guys involved. Will you have a Linux desktop available for demo? Kim

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