KCLUG January 2005

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RE: TV-OUT on laptop causes major damage, fire / shock
by Brian Densmore 23 Jan '05

23 Jan '05

Don't know if this will help, but my brother (a retired EE with AT&T) thinks it's the adaptor. Probably a failed capacitor. So make sure they replace the darn adaptor. > -----Original Message----- > From: Tom Bruno > > My girlfriend today pointed out a time like 5-6 weeks ago > during a bible > study i was using my laptop with it on my lap, and i was > getting shocked > through my blue jeans. I had forgotten about this until now. That > seems a little wierd to me aswell. We are pretty certian it's the > laptop. > > On Sun, 2004-12-05 at 13:43 -0600, Jonathan Hutchins wrote: > > I hate to say it, given that we all love to express our > opinions on these > > matters, but you're talking to the wrong people. > > > > You REALLY, REALLY need to at least talk with a real, > honest-to-goodnes, > > listed-in-the-yellow-pages Product Liability Lawyer. > > > > At the minimum, you deserve to have a working laptop, a > fixed TV, and a new > > cable. You've been injured, and you can probably argue > quite successfully > > for compensation for that. Shock and trauma are a little > bit more difficult > > to prove, but getting knocked unconcious is pretty clearly > not something you > > should expect from a consumer product that's being used correctly. > > > > If you don't talk to a lawyer, what's the worst that could > happen? Well, I > > suppose Dell could say "it was the TV, not the laptop", and > you'd be out a > > computer and a TV. Maybe you're cool with that. I don't > think I would be. > > > > If you do work with a lawyer, he should be willing to do > this on a contingency > > basis - his fees come out of any potential settlement. You > may still loose > > the laptop and the TV - they become evidence. Your expense > in replacing > > them, though, becomes part of your claim. > > > > We are not talking about suing someone because the coffee > you shouldn't have > > poured in your lap was too hot. We're talking about > serious injury and > > damage from normal use of ordinary consumer appliances. > > > > Think about this: What if you'd been alone? What if that > fire had caught on > > something else, and kept burning, while you were knocked > out on the floor? > > _______________________________________________ > > Kclug mailing list > > Kclug(a)kclug.org > > http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug > > _______________________________________________ > Kclug mailing list > Kclug(a)kclug.org > http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug >

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MythTV
by Curt Box 21 Jan '05

21 Jan '05

I've finally struggled through the mysql (no prior experience) portion of setting up a MythTV system and am now having issues with a new Hauppauge PVR-250. I have the program guide working, can run mythtvsetup, access all the menus, etc. Unfortunately, if I choose "Watch TV" all I get is channel 4. Any attempt to change channels fails, which causes me to suspect that my tuner is incorrectly defined... or the module is not loading correctly... Anyone? -- From Wordnet: 1. propaganda -- (information that is spread for the purpose of promoting some cause)

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Linux radio question
by Richard A. Franklin 20 Jan '05

20 Jan '05

Just starting to listen to live radio using RealPlayer 10.0.2.608 w/ SuSE 9.2 (thanks to SuSE for the free 9.2 DVD ISO). Any recommendations for free Web sites and/or Linux tools for selecting stations and managing addresses for favorites? Have tried saving links to connections under "favorites" with RealPlayer, but I often get error messages indicating a possibly outdated or inaccurate link when I try to return to a saved station ... sometimes I can retrieve a live stream, sometimes not. Rick

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retest
by Brian Kelsay 20 Jan '05

20 Jan '05

no reply needed. Brian Kelsay

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OT: Free Wireless Internet in KC
by Leo Mauler 20 Jan '05

20 Jan '05

I'm off at an art fair with my artist wife in Oklahoma City. Our hotel didn't come with free wireless internet, but the IHOP across the street did. I'm sending this E-mail from that very IHOP (although the signal was strong enough to reach out to the parking lot). I'm curious: where in KC have people found equally free (or free with a food purchase) wireless Internet access? I know some of the Panera Bread restaurants have them, but it would be interesting to find out places which already have it to schedule alternative LUG and other computer group meeting locations. I must sign off as the battery power in the laptop is getting low. Which is another thing: when you post locations with free wireless Internet access, be sure to note locations of power outlets as some of us have laptops without good batteries. This IHOP doesn't really have a table with a power outlet near it. ===== And I always thought: the very simplest words Must be enough. When I say what things are like Everyone's heart must be torn to shreds. That you'll go down if you don't stand up for yourself Surely you see that. -- Bertolt Brecht __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? All your favorites on one personal page � Try My Yahoo! http://my.yahoo.com

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Re: test
by Brian Kelsay 20 Jan '05

20 Jan '05

I only got the replies that were CCed to this address. I didn't get a copy of my own message. Something is borked. I checked my home email via web and saw that my message went thru there. WTF? over. Brian Kelsay >>> <lerninlinux(a)comcast.net> 01/20/05 02:32PM >>> Reply to your test, both to your personal mail and the newsgroup for verification.

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Re: test
by lerninlinux＠comcast.net 20 Jan '05

20 Jan '05

Reply to your test, both to your personal mail and the newsgroup for verification. Randal > Are my mails getting thru? I've not been receiving LUG mail at this address > since around noon on 1/17. > > Brian Kelsay > > _______________________________________________ > Kclug mailing list > Kclug(a)kclug.org > http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug

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test
by Brian Kelsay 20 Jan '05

20 Jan '05

Are my mails getting thru? I've not been receiving LUG mail at this address since around noon on 1/17. Brian Kelsay

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RE: old hardware reminiscers support group
by Brian Densmore 20 Jan '05

20 Jan '05

> -----Original Message----- > From: Leo Mauler > > My high school physics teacher had everyone build a > model rocket as the "final project" of the semester, > but they had to do something different, not just > "rocket goes up, rocket comes down"... > two engines fired simultaneously next to > each other (didn't work too well that last one ... Go figure! Now there are ways of making clusters of engines, but two isn't all that symmetrical (unless you're talking about a two stage two rocket engine I wouldn't want to be near one of those). I'd think the minimum you'd want to combine together would be about six in a cluster. Of course the number really depends on how many it takes to completely encircle a center engine. > > I did a model rocket that could be recovered at night, > using a high-intensity flashlight bulb and a couple of > N-size batteries in a clear payload. We launched it > around midnight on a cloudy moonless night. A modern take on that would be one of those super bright white leds with a nice big roundish solid plastic lens to throw out a nice wide diffused beam. Hey ,that sounds like a fun experiment. But what about little sensors in the rocket, to track speed and altitude and transmit to a land-based Linux server, running a graphical plot of the rocket? Maybe even add a little spy cam to transmit video back to the server?

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DHCP Fingerprint (was: Re: OT: Free Wireless Internet in KC)
by Dave Hull 20 Jan '05

20 Jan '05

Quoting Frank Wiles <frank(a)wiles.org>: > On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 08:41:16 -0600 > Dave Hull <dphull(a)insipid.com> wrote: > > > <shameless_slef_promotion> > > What's this article on Next Generation DHCP Deployments all about? > > </shameless_self_promotion> > > Ooh congrats. I'll make a point of reading it. Definitely have to > keep up on DHCP. IMHO, the most interesting parts of the article are the bits about how we're using DHCP to passively and remotely fingerprint operating systems on our network. I'm going to try and write for them again in the future, most of the things I could write about that are interesting are too platform/distribution specific, or so I gather. -- Dave Hull http://insipid.com

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