KCLUG January 2005

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Re: MSIE slipping further?
by Gerald Combs 04 Jan '05

04 Jan '05

Oren Beck wrote: > HOW does it "look" to the tracking tools if someone is using WINE ? The same as if they were running under Windows. Most web log analyzers parse the contents of the "User-Agent:" string that is passed from the browser to the server for each request. E.g. Firefox on my laptop (when booted to XP) sends Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) \ Gecko/20041107 Firefox/1.0 The format of this string is a de facto standard, AFAIK. > The question that comes to mind is accuracy . Though many > browsers state that they "can" identify as "BrowserX.X" does it > really- show properly to your tool ? Same query as to OS identity . > I do wonder if some misidentification is skewing results in unpredictable > directions . Example being if I am using Opera installed in a Win9X > machine > then use Knoppix to run Opera- too lazy to import bookmarks for example ? I have no idea how accurate these statistics are. They're highly dependent on the notion that the overwhelming majority of users _don't_ fool with their "User-Agent:" settings, and that browsers don't lie about themselves by default. Some web analysis tools use JavaScript tricks to try to ferret out extra information about the user's environment (e.g. screen resolution). You could even use some sort of passive OS fingerprinting to identify the client, but it might not be very useful. I have a feeling that compared to the number of MSIE users, the number of people running Opera under Wine under Knoppix is several digits to the right of any useful rounding error. At any rate, most people who have the need or desire to change their "User-Agent:" string do so in order to make whatever oddball browser they're using look like MSIE. This makes MSIE's drop in numbers doubly-damning, IMO.

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Re: Dynamic signatures
by Brian Kelsay 04 Jan '05

04 Jan '05

Kurt, I looked around the site and found a few references to Linux and Unix use. Perhaps you could use the Java client or compile the C++ client? The FAQ says anything that can run Perl can run it. I'm assuming they're talking about putting the display code into a webpage. The client that grabs the info would be what you are having problems with. Then again, I could be wrong. Brian Kelsay >>> <kurt@verruckt> 01/02/05 10:48PM >>> Does anyone know of a dynamic signature like this one http://sigx.yuriy.net/ For linux? Maybe my search criteria is crap, but I'm not turning anything up.

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RE: Net::RawIP Compile
by Welsh, Ed 04 Jan '05

04 Jan '05

CPAN fails in the same place. I found that CPAN was one revision older than the tar ball code and I thought it might be repaired in the new code. Such was not the case and they both fail. Really, all CPAN does is download, extract, make, make test, make install and keeps it all organized. EW -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Hutchins [mailto:hutchins@tarcanfel.org] Sent: Friday, December 31, 2004 10:35 AM To: kclug(a)kclug.org Subject: Re: Net::RawIP Compile On Thursday 30 December 2004 04:58 pm, Welsh, Ed wrote: > Net::RawIP Why not just get it with CPAN? _______________________________________________ Kclug mailing list Kclug(a)kclug.org http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug The information transmitted in this e-mail is intended only for the addressee and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any interception, review, retransmission, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited by law and may subject them to criminal or civil liability. If you received this communication in error, please contact us immediately at 816.421.6611, and delete the communication from any computer or network system.

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Dynamic signatures
by kurt＠verruckt.org 03 Jan '05

03 Jan '05

Does anyone know of a dynamic signature like this one http://sigx.yuriy.net/ For linux? Maybe my search criteria is crap, but I'm not turning anything up. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.825 / Virus Database: 563 - Release Date: 12/30/2004

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executable help files in Linux
by Brian Densmore 01 Jan '05

01 Jan '05

I was looking at a driver download from Lexar for the JumpDrive secure version 3.1. It has drivers for Linux, Mac and Windows. In the Linux directory is the driver to use the secure functions of the stick/drive. It appears to be gtk based from a hexdump. There is also a .hlp file, which has the magic number and identifier for ELF files. It also appears to be a GTK executable file. I don't recall ever seeing a Linux help file that was actually a program. Is this some new trend in Linux or is it just something Lexar has taken upon themselves to do? I don't have a Linux desktop handy to test this, but will try to load it later and see how well the driver works in Linux and how portable it is. I'm assuming that Lexar has not opensourced the driver, there is no sourcecode included. It's nice to see the support though. When I contacted the support people the second question was which OS I was using. Not which version of Windows. Brian Densmore

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