January 2005 - KCLUG

RE: Fwd: Since we're on Laptops
by Brian Densmore 24 Jan '05

24 Jan '05

> -----Original Message----- > From: lerninlinux > > All the ones I based that idea on use a regular atx power > supply and something like those $20.00 harbor freight "tool > cases". although I would plan on a better case. Something that would be great from a geek factor is making one in an artist's wooden case. One would have to tackle the heat issue, hence the geek factor. Plus it'd make a mighty handsome looking machine. Always liked the look of wood over molded plastic. Of course this wouldn't be a "rugged" laptop by any stretch. My question is where you get the screens from, to build your own? > > > > I think I would rather have a briefcase computer. I can > have my curvy > > keyboard and a really big battery. I found some small > motherboards but > > where do I find a DC power supply that would give the correct > > voltages? > > -Jeff

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groupware products / free stuff
by hanasaki 24 Jan '05

24 Jan '05

anyone have experiences and facts comparisons to share on: opengroupware egroupware phpgroupware did I miss any?

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Re: Laptop for truck driving job
by Richard A. Franklin 24 Jan '05

24 Jan '05

Jeffrey Martin wrote: >Are you currently driving or a former driver? > > It is my current occupation. That is to say, I will be driving my truck when I am fully recovered from being rammed into the median on U.S. 69 while driving my SUV in mid-December. Rather sore yet. It was enough of a collision to bend the frame on my vehicle. Hit by a kid on his way home from college in a Dodge Ram pickup pulling a horse in a trailer ... he was fine, the horse was merely spooked, and I suspect he had his cell phone glued to his face instead of watching the rather heavy traffic we were all in. The kid has a rodeo "scholarship". Really. I couldn't make that up. Mostly, I move military folks and their families from one base to another. (It has been interesting to hear what some Captains, Majors, LTCs really think about Bush, but cannot say openly ... it is part of their contract as commissioned officers to not ever publicly criticize their commander in chief) I also transport equipment to restaurants that are under construction ... all of this in 48 states, D.C. and an occasional threat of having to drive into Canada. But I digress. >I'm going to be starting the 4 week school in Kansas City Kansas in a week. > >One trucking company I looked up on the internet had internet access >through the satelite link in the truck. > >How does one deal with so many providers. I suppose you have to buy a >card for all of them. > > http://www.tonservices.com/hisp_home.htm This is available in about 300 truck stops, which may not sound like much, but then again, there are not that many places where I care to stop for the night; and these are almost all very clean, fairly modern facilities. I tend to park under the lights, as the creepy, slithering creatures of the night tend to bother the people parked in more remote places (a truck alarm is a good idea). Anyway, I also started to find a fair number of "free" wireless connections at truck stops. Avoid truckstop.net for wireless service. They are historically inconsistent, and the company is currently suing Sprint, saying Sprint failed to properly install hot spots, and Sprint is withholding service until they get paid. BTW, I run my appliances, including the laptop, off of a power inverter. There are many ways to do this correctly, and many ways to fry your truck's electrical system, or your appliances, or both. See your truck dealer for details, or go to an old, well established C.B. shop. Some of the better ones sell power inverters, satellite TV, and other good things, and know how to install them properly if you don't. Still, a Kenworth, Freightliner or Peterbilt ... or whatever dealer, may be the most qualified to assist you with your power needs. Good luck and safe travels! I will be happy to address any questions you may have about truck driving off list. Rick

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SLES 9 xscreensaver dual head
by Dave Hull 24 Jan '05

24 Jan '05

Anyone running SLES 9 with dual head support and xscreensaver? If so, could you forward your .xscreensaver file from your home directory to me? Alternatively, does anyone know what jiggery-pokery to put in the .xscreensaver file to cause it to run two different screensavers simultaneously, one on each head? -- Dave Hull http://insipid.com

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Laptop for truck driving job
by Jeffrey Martin 24 Jan '05

24 Jan '05

What should I avoid when looking for a linux compatible laptop? Any other tips for being on the road with linux? Thank You. -Jeff

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Re: Fwd: SInce we're on Laptops
by lerninlinux＠comcast.net 24 Jan '05

24 Jan '05

All the ones I based that idea on use a regular atx power supply and something like those $20.00 harbor freight "tool cases". although I would plan on a better case. > I think I would rather have a briefcase computer. I can have my curvy > keyboard and a really big battery. I found some small motherboards but > where do I find a DC power supply that would give the correct > voltages? > -Jeff > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: lerninlinux(a)comcast.net <lerninlinux(a)comcast.net> > Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 05:36:42 +0000 > Subject: SInce we're on Laptops > To: kclug(a)kclug.org > > > I've half been thinking about that Via laptop that Walmart sells. > Anyone have a Via processor that they have experience with? By no > means would it be a power machine, and the memory would be upgraded, > I just want data portability, network diagnostics capibility, and a > chance to play around with War Driving. All but the Wardriving could > be acheived by a modded Briefcase computer I've been threatening to > build, out of an old 900 (either amd or intel ) I have. > > I've been looking to upgrade my machines possibly, but if this is a No > on the Via, then I'll probably just wait as I am arguing with myself > over an AMD 64 desktop of Laptop for my next system. > > Thanks > Randal > _______________________________________________ > Kclug mailing list > Kclug(a)kclug.org > http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug > _______________________________________________ > Kclug mailing list > Kclug(a)kclug.org > http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug

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RE: Dell
by Brian Densmore 24 Jan '05

24 Jan '05

Compaq servers can also be purchased with Linux on them right? Compaq is now part of HP so you'd get all that Linux expertise with it. Compaq servers are, from what I hear the best choice for servers out there. We have a few here and I got to say, I wish I could afford one. I tend to agree here. Dell wants to be on the Linux bandwagon, but only if ... Kind of like the guy sitting on the fence to see which of two fighting groups gets the upperhand. I think they are going to commit to being Linux supporters ... someday. For me that day may already be too late and bringing too little with it. For a guy who started out working out of a college Dorm, he's become entrenched and tunnel-visioned. Not to mention arrogant. (Heard this guy speak lately? I talked to him once, one on one, at a convention in Vegas. I came away feeling cold, with a bitter taste in my mouth. I haven't liked the idea of owning a Dell since. But that's what's great about a free society, everyone is free to choose.) > -----Original Message----- > From: Jonathan Hutchins [mailto:hutchins@tarcanfel.org] > Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 9:28 AM > To: kclug(a)kclug.org > Subject: Re: Dell > > > On Monday 24 January 2005 03:22 am, Bill Cavalieri wrote: > > > Dell sells PowerEdge servers with RedHat and SuSE as options. > > Right, but only certain models, and they do not provide linux > support for the > rest of their line. They try to have things both ways; take > advantage of the > Linux trend but don't put the work into really supporting it. > _______________________________________________ > Kclug mailing list > Kclug(a)kclug.org > http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug >

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Dual-Booting XP?
by Jonathan Hutchins 24 Jan '05

24 Jan '05

Is there an issue with using Lilo (or Grub) to dual boot with XP? I've never had any trouble with NT, although I didn't bother to skip the NTLoader, so I had two boot managers running at startup if I chose NT. I prefer Lilo to Grub, it's easy for me to understand, and I love the ability to change defaults permanently or temporarily from the command line (lilo -R windows;shutdown -r now).

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RE: Open Source Values
by Brian Densmore 24 Jan '05

24 Jan '05

> -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Herrmann > > ... What I would like to know from some of you guys is, which of > your values > are best served by OSS? Please let me know either directly in > confidence, or publicly to the list, where you consider > yourself on the > conservative/moderate/progressive political spectrum, and what it is > about OSS that appeals to you. What I like about OSS? Hmmm... that tough. Well I like Linux because it doesn't crash like the older Windows OSes. It doesn't have nauseating click-through license agreements. It runs XWindows and various desktop managers that allow me to have multiple virtual desktops within my desktop (not to mention I can have multiple desktops by running multiple copies). I used to use a Norton Desktop on older Windows which gave me a similar effect. So I guess that would fall under better usability, at least for me. I like the idea of free as in speech, and that I can control what is and is not installed/running on my own hardware. What's not to like about free as in beer either, Although I have bought many versions of Linux and some other OSS software. It's nice to be able to pull something down, install it and try it out. I guess that is why I've always like shareware also. It's also nice to not have to worry about losing your system to a virus/worm. Not that Linux is immune, just harder to destroy. So I guess the way I feel about Linux could be extended to OSS in general. 1) More stable than older versions of Windows (they've gotten a lot better in recent years). 2) Freedom (freedom to: think, choose, from nauseating legalalities, use, share) 3) Safety from viruses and worms. 4) The community in general. Politically? Hmm... conservative-liberal-"social-democratic"-empowerist(?) or something like that. (basically I tend more away from the right (my liberal part) but not entirely, and not everything on the left appeals to me either (my conservative part), yet I feel that we are responsible for taking take of our fellow beings (my social- democratic part) while still making people responsible for their own actions (my empowerist part - for lack of a better term)). See if you can pigeonhole that one. Oh sure I could say liberal and be done with it, but it wouldn't really fit me. Brian Densmore

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Re: Linux radio question
by Brian Kelsay 23 Jan '05

23 Jan '05

You might check out Gnomoradio, which let's you listen to MP3s on other users PCs. I use Shoutcast.com for my main site to find web radio. A lot or most of the others were shut down 2 years ago by RIAA. Brian Kelsay

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