KCLUG October 2007

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Anyone on the list have a laptop for sale that can run Beryl etc?
by Oren Beck 30 Oct '07

30 Oct '07

Simply put, I have some capital to buy a laptop. I would if possible spend my money in our community so to speak. Prices and required specs are flexible but. minimally I need to run Linux and XP: as dual boot, have at least 1 hour battery, internal cd burner and reasonably professional external appeearance for air travel. The IED look is a non starter then, Beryl seems the heaviest app I would run except whatever it takes to drive a scan/fax/prind device of some sort. So what's in play ? TIA Oren 816.632.3695 Identify yourself as from KCLUG as my calls get screened.

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Fwd: ITEC/LUG
by Billy Crook 29 Oct '07

29 Oct '07

I don't know who from kclug is attending ITEC, I'm not. But whoever is may wish to bring a box, and some kclug info. Kim is speaking after the keynote. I don't think KCLUG is doing anything other than manning a booth. A mention after the keynote might draw some traffic, or let people know KC has a LUG if they don't know already. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Kim Brand <kim(a)fileengine.com> Date: Oct 25, 2007 11:16 AM Subject: Re: ITEC/LUG To: Billy Crook <billycrook(a)gmail.com> I'm presenting the session on Open Source/Free Software on Wednesday morning after the Keynote. I'm also conducting an Open Source Camp on Thursday. If you can get a box there running Ubuntu or something we can have some fun with a demo. If you can make some KC LUG info available during my presentation I will make sure people get it. Thanks, Kim Brand cell: 317-714-1913

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Re: Anybody interested in some PCs? (Just checking, not for sale (yet))
by Philip Dorr 29 Oct '07

29 Oct '07

> On 10/28/07, Luke -Jr <luke(a)dashjr.org> wrote: > > On Sunday 28 October 2007, Mark Gardner wrote: > > > On 10/27/07, Jonathan Hutchins <hutchins(a)tarcanfel.org> wrote: > > > > On Saturday 27 October 2007 11:27:26 am feba thatl wrote: > > > > > I f you're interested, let me know. Again, they aren't for sale, but I > > > > > might have to sell them. I have someone who's interested in the old PC, > > > > > but I don't like him much, and I don't want to deal with installing > > > > > windows on it for him. > > > > > > > > Interest will likely be inversely proportionate to price, set by you. > > > > > > I'll open the bidding at $5 > > > > $5.01! :p > > $30 $31

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Anybody interested in some PCs? (Just checking, not for sale (yet))
by feba thatl 29 Oct '07

29 Oct '07

Hey, long story short, I'm considering selling my PCs, and I want to see first if any of you are interested, and second how much you pay/think they're worth (in case none of you want them and I put them on CL or ebay or something) First one, my old computer: It's a medion brand computer, premade so I'm not sure of motherboard. 2.4GHz P4 processor 512MB RAM (DDR something) nVidia GeForce 6200LE (EVGA I think) 80GB HDD DVD/CD RW drive DVD (?) drive also has a floppy drive, a few different types of flash drives, and an ethernet card (mainboard ethernet doesn't work for some reason) Second, my new computer: a bit of backstory, I actually purchased the parts for this in March, put it together, didn't work, half a dozen RMAs later I finally get a working CPU, GPU, and mbrd, but then I find my old computer's monitor doesn't work with it. It SEEMS to boot fine, but again since my monitor doesn't work I can't be sure, and you'd have to get it working with your own monitor and such. *** ASUS P5N32-E SLI LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail <http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16813131073>*(Hurray for copy/paste) *** Intel Core 2 Duo E6700 Conroe 2.66GHz LGA 775 Processor Model BX80557E6700 - Retail <http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16819115002> 2 GB o*f RAM, DDR2. The RAM sticks are 1066, but the motherboard only goes up to DDR2 800. *** EVGA 320-P2-N811-AR GeForce 8800GTS 320MB 320-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail <http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16814130082> **** Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM <http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16822136073> **** LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner With 12X DVD-RAM Write Black SATA Model LH-20A1S - Retail <http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16827106057> **** MITSUMI Black 1.44MB 3.5" Internal USB 2.0 digital card reader with Floppy Drive - OEM <http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16821104104> And for the case and powersupply (again, unsure of the old computer) **** XCLIO WTSL Fully Silver Finish 1.0mm SECC/ ABS ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail <http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16811103012> **** Antec True Power Trio TP3-650 ATX12V 650W Power Supply with Three 12V Rails - Retail <http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16817371001> If you're interested, let me know. Again, they aren't for sale, but I might have to sell them. I have someone who's interested in the old PC, but I don't like him much, and I don't want to deal with installing windows on it for him. *

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Fedora as a webserver
by Earle Beason 28 Oct '07

28 Oct '07

Playing around in my spare time I have been trying to get fedora 7 to do the php includes, but for some reason I missed something and it not getting the desired results, anybody have a clue what I might have missed? Also, what steps to I need to take to have my Fedora 7 machine acts as a web server

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extreme customer service
by David Nicol 27 Oct '07

27 Oct '07

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OobrfR125uc&NR=1 -- halloween link: http://tinyurl.com/ytm8ba

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Recommends for a Linux laptop- preferably an abuse resistant model.
by Oren Beck 27 Oct '07

27 Oct '07

I do not need the full milspec explosion/waterproof models.. Just hopefully minor drop and knocked over drink resistance to protect my $500 ballpark investment. Much as I have been looking at CF-51 etc semirugged or the harder cased CF-71 family variants the $ to hardness trade offs seem dicey. As in perhaps I just should get a $399 low end from somewhere new and get the no quibbles even broken screen warranty . My average use profile is web browsing, light commercial use of OpenOffice and some music playing. I do not need shooter game frame rates etc. Battery life and stability are more important to me as examples. Beryl would be nice but not essential as a target max demand application. DVD/CD burner is a minimum optical drive. Within that overview recommends will be appreciated SO folks, if you were going to spend $500 on a new or Ebay sourced laptop what would it be?

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Fwd: [wordup] Hackers Space: The Final Frontier
by David Nicol 25 Oct '07

25 Oct '07

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Adam Shand <adam(a)shand.net> Date: Oct 23, 2007 4:44 PM Subject: [wordup] Hackers Space: The Final Frontier To: wordup(a)lists.spack.org Source: http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2007/10/hackers-space-t.html Hackers Space: the Final Frontier By Marty graham October 20, 2007 | 8:44:39 PM Imagine a device that looks like a lawnmower, rolls up to you and shows you your wifi password. It's Hackerbot, and 3ricj says people react kindly to the little bot, not like they do to the evil hacker stereotype. Or a CDMA device sent up in a balloon that works until the batteries fail. This is what happens when hackers have a space - Hackerspace, in Seattle. Founded on April Fool's 2005, it's full of things that explode, burn, whirr and hum, and people who play with them. "It takes money to do this, but you've got a bigger pool of people to raise money," 3ricj says. With an evolving group of members, people try art, hardware hacks and collective projects in the 3,000 square foot space. Members have lots of freedom inside, but they also think through the results of what they do. "It's important you don't disrupt the local ecosystem because once the cops start showing up your project is in trouble," 3ricj says. "Sharing a case of beer and sitting in a corner isn't really a good use for the space." They've got dozens of projects underway, a pile of electronics finally sorted for easy use. They use wikis to track supplies, keep project lists and notes. Hackerspace is a real example of hacker gatherings, infrastructure in the community that the Hacker Foundation is promoting. "You have to organize," says Nick Farr, who set up 'hackers on a plane', hauling hackers from DefCon to Germany for a hacker camp. "All it takes is getting a group of people who are local and interested and start talking about it, get to a shared vision." "It gets really hard to pursue projects in a house, it's important to have a space you can invite people into," he says. NYC Resistor is creating a space in Manhattan, another group is working on an art gallery/hacker space in San Francisco, possibly the two most expensive cities in North America. "Almost any potentially public space that you can build walls and lay network cable in can be a hacker space," Farr says. "Look at any public space in your community where you can start to create a hacker space." Almost all the public hacker spaces created have failed because the people who started the project burned out from the drama of it all. And there's the risk of surprise expenses - holes punched or insurance costs. "Noboby's going to do the community organizing for you," says Farr. "We're encouraging you to do this because it's a cool idea for people to have a place to collaborate." Some of the things that come from hackerspaces are fascinating - Lara Sobel's RFID shielding pouches wallets, made from trash and essentially an open source project. "I posted instructions for making them online so anyone can do it," Sobel says. "I learned how to fuse the trash bags and defeat RFID readers from available information and I'm sharing how to do it." Besides fused trashbags, Lara uses aluminum can bits to provide shielding whether the pouch is open or closed. They Velcro shut and fit credit cards, licenses and passports. Sobel started making them because she wanted to be able to turn her RFID technology on herself to people she trusts. "I want a human interaction to make a trust decision," she says. -- List: http://www.spack.org/index.cgi/WordUp More: http://www.spack.org/index.cgi/AdamShand -- non-smoker since 11:31 pm october 10, 2007 "To do good in secret, and shun the world's applause, is the surest testimony of a virtuous heart and self-approving conscience." -- John Polidori ( http://tinyurl.com/ytm8ba ) more vampyres in the news: http://license.icopyright.net/user/external.act?content_id=2420423

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ITEC Software distribution (Again)
by Billy Crook 25 Oct '07

25 Oct '07

I thought I might revive this thread to mention that Fedora 8 is scheduled to be released on November 8th, the second day of ITEC. If you're still looking for software to hand out, Fedora 8 will be freshly 'released' that morning at 9AM central time. If you brought a laptop and a spindle of DVD-Rs, you'd have a chance to start burning as the doors open (assuming they have a big connection there). On 9/28/07, Monty J. Harder <mjharder(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 9/28/07, cragos(a)gmail.com <cragos(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > FLOSS for Windows: > > TheOpenCD: It was a nice package, but the big stuff was already on the > > Ubuntu LiveCDs. At least as recently as the last LTS build, they were > > shipping with Windows installers for OOo, Firefox, and one other app > > (Thunderbird or GAIM?). In Edgy Eft, they were shipping with AbiWord, > > GAIM, Thunderbird, Firefox, and the Gimp. > > > > For most people that aren't ready to install Linux yet, that's a pretty good > sampling of FLOSS. I've always liked having something for them, and the fact > that Ubuntu works 3 different ways (Windows FLOSS, Live Linux, Installed > Linux) all on one CD has made it my fave since they first > > It might be best to do a sheet of printed material with URLs of various > resources, but we might as well just put that on kclug.org so it's > clickable. > > Gotta remember to get some more blank business cards.... > > _______________________________________________ > Kclug mailing list > Kclug(a)kclug.org > http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug > >

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ITEC
by Michael Schultheiss 25 Oct '07

25 Oct '07

Hi KCLUG, I'm Michael Schultheiss, President of the Central Indiana Linux Users Group. Kim Brand, Secretary of CINLUG, is going to be speaking at the ITEC conference in Overland Park on November 7-8. He wanted me to reach out to KCLUG and see if you wanted to participate in ITEC. CINLUG has had a booth at the Indianapolis ITEC for the past two years and we've been able to get a lot of new people aware of our LUG. Kim's also leading the Free Software and Open Source Systems Camp at ITEC. According to the ITEC website, the camps are an alternative to the traditional conference sessions. Registration is free - visit www.goitec.com and click on Kansas City to register. Feel free to contact Kim at kim(a)cinlug.org for more information.

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KCLUG October 2007