Run? How would it use a Cobol database? Cobol is a programming language. There are GNU Cobol components for compiling (gcc, may have to add an extension), but I've never heard of a Cobol database. I'm working with a Sybase database modeling tool on Windows right now (Power Builder 11) and it can work with basically any database and supposedly reverse engineer obscure ones, so they tell me. I'm going to make a broad statement and say that any ODBC-enabled database will work with Winders and you should be able to get it to work with Linux too. Any input from DBAs?
-----Original Message----- From: On Behalf Of RtX Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 11:00 AM
Keypoint did say that they have a few clients running RedHat Linux for this purpose. They said it uses a Cobol database.
Suggestions or comments?
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On Thursday 16 November 2006 11:17, Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO wrote:
How would it use a Cobol database? Cobol is a programming language.
Often used to build/implement database systems. Dec VMS is also used directly for databases.
One thing to watch out for is that while Windows does include a telnet client, terminal emulation software can be VERY expensive depending on the capabilities and compatibility required.
If you can handle VT-100 emulation, it works fine. I personally like ANSI though.
On 11/16/06, Jonathan Hutchins hutchins@tarcanfel.org wrote:
One thing to watch out for is that while Windows does include a telnet client, terminal emulation software can be VERY expensive depending on the capabilities and compatibility required. _______________________________________________ Kclug mailing list Kclug@kclug.org http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug
On 11/16/06, Jonathan Hutchins hutchins@tarcanfel.org wrote:
On Thursday 16 November 2006 11:17, Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO wrote:
How would it use a Cobol database? Cobol is a programming language.
Often used to build/implement database systems. Dec VMS is also used directly for databases.
One thing to watch out for is that while Windows does include a telnet client, terminal emulation software can be VERY expensive depending on the capabilities and compatibility required.
I'm thinking PuTTY It's free!
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On Thursday 16 November 2006 1:12 pm, RtX wrote:
On 11/16/06, Jonathan Hutchins hutchins@tarcanfel.org wrote:
On Thursday 16 November 2006 11:17, Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO wrote:
How would it use a Cobol database? Cobol is a programming language.
Often used to build/implement database systems. Dec VMS is also used directly for databases.
One thing to watch out for is that while Windows does include a telnet client, terminal emulation software can be VERY expensive depending on the capabilities and compatibility required.
I'm thinking PuTTY It's free!
Cygwin for windows is actually pretty nice too. :)
On 11/16/06, Rich Edelman rcedelman@comcast.net wrote:
On Thursday 16 November 2006 1:12 pm, RtX wrote:
On 11/16/06, Jonathan Hutchins hutchins@tarcanfel.org wrote:
On Thursday 16 November 2006 11:17, Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO wrote:
How would it use a Cobol database? Cobol is a programming language.
Often used to build/implement database systems. Dec VMS is also used directly for databases.
One thing to watch out for is that while Windows does include a telnet client, terminal emulation software can be VERY expensive depending on the capabilities and compatibility required.
I'm thinking PuTTY It's free!
Cygwin for windows is actually pretty nice too. :)
Good point. I'll keep that in mind.
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Cobol is a programming language but it stores its data in binary flat files. So in a sense it is its own database. There are applications that can extract data out of cobal files, but it's a messy task. There is no such beast as an ODBC cobal driver...
We had a Cobal based Agency Management system here four years ago. We ended up moving to a SQL based solution from another vendor. We did have to extract some data from the cobal app, but luckily the new vendor had experience with our old system and was able to do that for us. The data wasn't very pretty.
I would recommend your client shop around for a more technologically advanced trucking system. Or have one designed.
-----Original Message----- From: kclug-bounces@kclug.org [mailto:kclug-bounces@kclug.org] On Behalf Of Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 11:18 AM To: KC Linux Users Group Subject: RE: Keypoint and Linux?
Run? How would it use a Cobol database? Cobol is a programming language. There are GNU Cobol components for compiling (gcc, may have to add an extension), but I've never heard of a Cobol database. I'm working with a Sybase database modeling tool on Windows right now (Power Builder 11) and it can work with basically any database and supposedly reverse engineer obscure ones, so they tell me. I'm going to make a broad statement and say that any ODBC-enabled database will work with Winders and you should be able to get it to work with Linux too. Any input from DBAs?
On 11/16/06, Jeremy Fowler JFowler@westrope.com wrote:
Cobol is a programming language but it stores its data in binary flat files. So in a sense it is its own database. There are applications that can extract data out of cobal files, but it's a messy task. There is no such beast as an ODBC cobal driver...
I knew Cobol was/is a programming language. Someone pointed the obvious out for me. Thanks. True, there is no ODBC cobol driver. Could make things interesting in data conversion. We'll see.
We had a Cobal based Agency Management system here four years ago. We ended up moving to a SQL based solution from another vendor. We did have to extract some data from the cobal app, but luckily the new vendor had experience with our old system and was able to do that for us. The data wasn't very pretty.
Did your vendor have to write a data conversion app? I would assume so.
I would recommend your client shop around for a more technologically advanced trucking system. Or have one designed.
My client is happy with the current software so shopping is probably not an option.
-----Original Message----- From: kclug-bounces@kclug.org [mailto:kclug-bounces@kclug.org] On Behalf Of Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 11:18 AM To: KC Linux Users Group Subject: RE: Keypoint and Linux?
Run? How would it use a Cobol database? Cobol is a programming language. There are GNU Cobol components for compiling (gcc, may have to add an extension), but I've never heard of a Cobol database. I'm working with a Sybase database modeling tool on Windows right now (Power Builder 11) and it can work with basically any database and supposedly reverse engineer obscure ones, so they tell me. I'm going to make a broad statement and say that any ODBC-enabled database will work with Winders and you should be able to get it to work with Linux too. Any input from DBAs? _______________________________________________ Kclug mailing list Kclug@kclug.org http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug
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