March 2006 - KCLUG

RE: Job opening - helpdesk
by Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO 31 Mar '06

31 Mar '06

I got six replies and I wrote back basically the same to all of you. Everyone knows that the Helpdesk is not the greatest gig, but it is always a foot in the door or the start of some experience. I hear about jobs through recruiters and friends all the time. I try to keep the group informed whenever something comes up that is promising. On 3/30/06, Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO wrote: I just got a contact on some helldesk, err... helpdesk opening that pays around 16/hr. If interested, email me and I'll send the contact info. rather than spamming the list with some recruiter info. And as always, my boss is looking for a Jr. Tech.

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Re: X Windows Question
by leland sindt 31 Mar '06

31 Mar '06

All, Thank you for the information. I have been doing a lot of reading, and its starting to come together. I did finally get something working, kind of. Below is the modeline that I finally ended up using. (via alot of trail and error) The color is fine, but there is a lot of over scan. Modeline "1280x720" 75.27 1280 1312 1592 1624 720 735 742 757 No level of tweaking, got rid of the over scan. I finally decided to use the --geometry setting for mythfrontend (instructing the application to only use part of the screen, the visible part) I have a feeling that the note in the manual about not using the monitor with a PC was CYA by Toshiba. If anyone has suggestions to get rid of the over scan, I am listening. (A 12 pack of Boulevard to the person with the answer that works.) Resources I used. http://www.tkk.fi/Misc/Electronics/faq/vga2rgb/calc.html http://xtiming.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/xtiming.pl

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Job opening - helpdesk
by Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO 30 Mar '06

30 Mar '06

I just got a contact on some helldesk, err... helpdesk opening that pays around 16/hr. If interested, email me and I'll send the contact info. rather than spamming the list with some recruiter info. And as always, my boss is looking for a Jr. Tech. He is interviewing today 12-2 and I imagine that job will open up again in a couple of months max. Not a great job, but a foot in the door and some experience for the old resume for you recent grads and career transitioners. Send me a resume if interested in that and I'll pass it on. He holds on to resumes until the next opening if he decides on somebody.

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Re: Semi-OT: Ham License required for Packet Radio?
by lerninlinux＠comcast.net 30 Mar '06

30 Mar '06

I had to find the link, as I had discussed this with my dad at one time. http://www.arrl.org/arrlvec/license-requirements.html So you can do packet, with a technicians license. I discussed this with him, because I found a bootable distro, aimed at ham users. (long since lost the link). He is licensed, and I am not, though some point and time.... -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Leo Mauler <webgiant(a)yahoo.com> > Does anyone on here have a Ham Radio License? I'm > trying to track down the minimum Ham Radio License to > create and use a Packet Radio system. > > The National Association for Amateur Radio (ARRL), > http://www.arrl.org/, has all the ham radio license > classes and what frequencies they can use. Wikipedia > has a nice definition of Packet Radio, > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Packet_radio. Neither > one mentions the minimum Ham Radio license to operate > a Packet Radio setup. > > I'm interested in getting a Ham License and would like > to experiment with Packet Radio, but I'm rotten at > Morse code and the Technician license doesn't require > any Morse code. Can you operate a Packet Radio setup > using Technician-class frequencies? > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Kclug mailing list > Kclug(a)kclug.org > http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug

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[OT] LCD monitor repair?
by Jason D. Clinton 30 Mar '06

30 Mar '06

Anyone here feel comfortable taking a look at the power circuitry on a 17" LCD panel or have a recommendation? The device is turning itself off for a few seconds at a time at random. It's been increasing in frequency as of late. Willing to pay $$, of course. -- Jason D. Clinton <me(a)jasonclinton.com>

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X Windows Question
by leland sindt 26 Mar '06

26 Mar '06

Hello all, I am posting here because I am looking for a local (KC area) X resource. I am currently in the final stages of building a MythTV HDTV PVR. This is the first Linux box that I have built that is not headless. (read: usually I do not work with X.) Long story short, I can get the system to output to a standard monitor without issue (X does a fine job of determining the proper resolution) However, when I attach the system to my Toshiba HDTV (via DVI) I can only get it to output 800x600 (Image falls off the screen) or 640x480 (image does not fill the screen). At this point it is my understanding that I need to build a custom modeline but for the life of me with all the reading that I have done I cannot grasp the concept. If you think that you are up the the task and interested, please let me know. On another note, I would be interested in attending a meeting, but chances are I will be out of town mid week as I travel for a living. But if I happen to be in town I look forward to attending. Thanks. -Leland

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Re: Web Design Needed
by mike＠handuma.com 25 Mar '06

25 Mar '06

Hi Greg, I'd like to help redesign the Rolling Hills Consolidated Library site using Web standards. Michael librarian(a)kclug.org http://www.handuma.com

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Web Design Needed
by G Lawson 24 Mar '06

24 Mar '06

Rolling Hills Consolidated Library is looking for a professional web designer to redo our website. The site is currently written in simple HTML, and is a collection of hand coding and NVU/Mozilla composer created pages. We want to have the coding updated to reflect current best practices, including CSS, and have some code cleaning done. We will also be adding a few pages and looking for creative redesign of some pages, including our "teen" and "children's" pages. We might have some simple java/javascript or flash done, but nothing extensive. An absolute requirement will be that the site is OS and browser agnostic, ie, Linux/Unix/Apple (and all the others) friendly. We expect frequent communication and perhaps even an occasional in-person meeting, so our preference would be a company in the KC/St. Joseph area. I would appreciate any references or suggestions. http://rollinghills.lib.mo.us Thanks! Greg Greg Lawson Network Administrator Rolling Hills Consolidated Library 1912 N. Belt Highway St. Joseph, MO 64506 816-232-5479 x2303 glawson att rollinghills.lib.mo.us

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RE: X Windows Question
by Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO 24 Mar '06

24 Mar '06

I saw a TV card in CompUSA last night that output 1080i, but it was a cheapy card. Non Hauppage. You MAY need something like this to fully utilize your HDTV. But I could be wrong. >-----Original Message----- >From: On Behalf Of Luke-Jr >Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 2:26 PM > >On Thursday 23 March 2006 17:58, leland sindt wrote: >> "The DVI/HDCP input is designed for best performance with 1080i >> high-definition video signals. The DVI/HDCP input also will >accept and >> display 480p and 480i picture signals. Note: This TV is not intended >> for connection to and should not be used with a PC (personal >computer)." > >Isn't 480p potentially a computer signal?

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RE: X with touchscreen monitors
by Daniel Siemens 24 Mar '06

24 Mar '06

The problem is not making it work with the X drivers on the system, it's making it into a product that you can deploy to an end user. This means a friendly calibration utility and configuration options tools. The free stuff from elotouch.com, the linux_public.zip file is woefully incomplete. I see you don't like 3M. Make a request for their source code, you will have to sign an NDA but with source they work pretty well. ________________________________ From: kclug-bounces(a)kclug.org [mailto:kclug-bounces@kclug.org] On Behalf Of John Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 1:21 PM To: kclug(a)kclug.org Subject: Re: X with touchscreen monitors I have worked with the Elo drivers before. These days (considering you have a newer Elo touch) you use the drivers in X. You can find how to setup the drivers at: http://www.elotouch.com/support/linux.asp The newer versions of X (4.x.x) include some Elo drivers that should work. That is what Elo suggests using. Just look for the input driver as instructed and see if it works. Otherwise, I would look up the particular model of Elo and try googling for it from there. I'm glad you asked about Elo's instead of 3M touchscreens so I could keep my email message at a PG rating ;) -John Frakes unixengineer(a)earthlink.net -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Siemens Sent: Mar 23, 2006 12:28 PM To: kclug(a)kclug.org Subject: X with touchscreen monitors Does anyone have elo graphics touch screens drivers and touch screen calibration utility for 2.6 kernels. In particular CentOS 4.3, the comparable to RHEL 4, updates 3. I can make the touch screen work with the elographics X drivers but the right way is to use the package from elo which I have been unable to get from them. It's a kernel level driver and calibration tool. The package would likely be called elotouch-1.1somthiing.rpm based on the little that I know.

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Re: X with touchscreen monitors
by John 23 Mar '06

23 Mar '06

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X with touchscreen monitors
by Daniel Siemens 23 Mar '06

23 Mar '06

Does anyone have elo graphics touch screens drivers and touch screen calibration utility for 2.6 kernels. In particular CentOS 4.3, the comparable to RHEL 4, updates 3. I can make the touch screen work with the elographics X drivers but the right way is to use the package from elo which I have been unable to get from them. It's a kernel level driver and calibration tool. The package would likely be called elotouch-1.1somthiing.rpm based on the little that I know.

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RE: X Windows Question
by Jeremy Fowler 23 Mar '06

23 Mar '06

There is a HOW-To here: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Xorg_HDTV But, it appears they are having problems. You can view the Google of this page cache here: http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:JhTBaxwOTN8J:gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Xorg…

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RE: X Windows Question
by Jeremy Fowler 23 Mar '06

23 Mar '06

Well, have you tried (while connected to your HDTV: ~ # Xorg -configure ~ # X -config /root/xorg.conf.new If it works, copy the settings from the new xorg.conf to your current one. If your running Knoppix or Gentoo, you can always install ddcxinfo-knoppix to find out the HorizSync and VertRefresh. The sources may be available on the Knoppix site, but I run Gentoo so I can just: # emerge ddcxinfo-knoppix

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7z compression
by Curt 22 Mar '06

22 Mar '06

Just downloaded a Gentoo based livecd that has XGL running on both gnome and kde.... Unfortunately, I can't seem to extract the iso image with either Ark, File Roller or Karchiver. I installed p7zip and using command line 7za I keep getting unsupported file type errors. I am unfamiliar with 7za and p7zip... Can someone offer info on how to extract this file? file name=RR64-Linux-3.0b1.iso.7z Thanks

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Local prices regarding Cat5 runs
by David Ambs 22 Mar '06

22 Mar '06

How are local companies currently charging for running/terminating Cat5 cables? Is it on average a set price per drop/distance, or an hourly rate? What about customized work, such as any major fishing or such, any extra? I'm assuming materials are never included? Thanks -dave

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RE: Copyright and Fair Use
by Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO 21 Mar '06

21 Mar '06

>-----Original Message----- >From: Brad Crotchett >> >> Tux even makes an appearance on page 63. Can someone identify the >> bearded man next to him? I can't quite place him. > >Richard Stallman. > >Brad I wasn't sure. I've not seen him look so clean cut before. He always looks a little wild to me.

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Copyright and Fair Use
by Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO 21 Mar '06

21 Mar '06

http://www.law.duke.edu/cspd/comics/2006/ A comic that comments on the rights of fair use and parody within the copyright laws. It uses the example of an intended documentary on life in New York to examine the problems of copyrights and trademarks that can exist in the background of every scene. It is a must read for the budding film maker. Tux even makes an appearance on page 63. Can someone identify the bearded man next to him? I can't quite place him.

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RE: 7z compression
by Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO 20 Mar '06

20 Mar '06

The only other 7z that I can think of is 7-zip, there is a command line version for Linux. Not sure why they would use it on a Linux distro iso, but you could try it. I got a source file for KISO in 7z format, but I haven't tried installing it yet. That is the only other place I've seen .7z used. http://www.7-zip.org/ >-----Original Message----- >From: On Behalf Of Curt >Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 7:12 PM > >Just downloaded a Gentoo based livecd that has XGL running on >both gnome and kde.... Unfortunately, I can't seem to extract >the iso image with either Ark, File Roller or Karchiver. I >installed p7zip and using command line 7za I keep getting >unsupported file type errors. I am unfamiliar with 7za and p7zip... >Can someone offer info on how to extract this file? >file name=RR64-Linux-3.0b1.iso.7z >Thanks

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C# Object Relational Mapper
by Josh Charles 17 Mar '06

17 Mar '06

Is anyone using a C# ORM or Code Generator that they feel is pretty decent? I've tried several, and they just don't seem to be up to the task: Nhibernate - a quagmire of too much. MonoRail / Active Record - quagmire as well, with too many 'hacks' needed to get it working. CodeSmith - too complicated. I would prefer something that works with newest version of the .NET framework as well as C# 2.0. I'm beginning to think that perhaps Ruby on Rails / Active Record has spoiled me too much... Josh

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RE: spamd issue - dies on prefork in perl
by Sexton, Kyle 16 Mar '06

16 Mar '06

Looks like this bug might be related to what you are seeing. They have a workaround patch it seems. http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/spamassassin-dev/200511.mbox/%3 c4590.436B4B5A.B6993238.dev(a)spamassassin.apache.org%3e

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spamd issue - dies on prefork in perl
by hanasaki 16 Mar '06

16 Mar '06

anyone ever see the below? The process ends up needing a kill -9 and then /etc/init.d/spamd start Mar 15 17:12:26 cognition spamd[10348]: prefork: child states: IIB Mar 15 17:12:30 cognition spamd[10348]: prefork: syswrite(6) failed, retrying... at /usr/share/perl5/Mail/SpamAssassin/SpamdForkScaling.pm line 554. Mar 15 17:13:05 cognition last message repeated 7 times Mar 15 17:14:10 cognition last message repeated 13 times Mar 15 17:15:00 cognition last message repeated 10 times Mar 15 17:15:05 cognition spamd[10348]: prefork: syswrite(6) failed, retrying... at /usr/share/perl5/Mail/SpamAssassin/SpamdForkScaling.pm line 554.

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RE: What is the modern "Floppy-Based" router based on?
by Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO 15 Mar '06

15 Mar '06

So the more important question to you was, can I trust a floppy formatted to more than the standard 1.44MB? I say yes. I have done it. I ran a firewall off one with Freesco for something like 2 years. If a floppy isn't going to work in this mode, you find out real quick when you try to format it and use rawwrite to put the .img file on it. I've had success with a ton of floppies, just not the ones with the cheapy plastic slider. Even some recycled AOL and Earthlink floppies made good Linux boot floppies. The other questions I think have been answered. >-----Original Message----- >From: On Behalf Of Leo Mauler >Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 11:41 AM >Ahhh, this kind of response is why I keep coming back here. >

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Highly OT: I request your objective opinion
by Arthur Pemberton 15 Mar '06

15 Mar '06

Hello fellow luggers, I cannot say that I know you guys very much at all. I am aware that there are both Christians and non Christians here. Those that claim not to be Christians also claim to be very objective, which one cannot deny to be a good thing. With this in mind, I would like you all to give your opnion on this video documentry that I have come across by chance. For all intents and purposes I think it is safe to give this an MPAA Rating of at least R. But I assume everyone on this list to be adults. I am not attempting to start any flaming, I just feel that it is my duty to pass this on to others: Here is the link, the first is to the original link from which I got it, the second is to a copy I made to my own site: [1] http://revradio.org/movies/ml.wmv [2] http://www.pembo13.com/pub/ml.wmv Thank you for your time Arthur -- As a boy I jumped through Windows, as a man I play with Penguins.

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OT: LAST CHANCE! Upcoming IT Security/SANS Training Conference
by Jason Youngquist 15 Mar '06

15 Mar '06

See email message below for upcoming SANS firewall training at the University of MO - Columbia. Jason Youngquist From: unisog-bounces(a)lists.sans.org [mailto:unisog-bounces@lists.sans.org] On Behalf Of Hough, Brandon D. Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 10:43 AM To: unisog(a)lists.sans.org Subject: [unisog] LAST CHANCE! Upcoming IT Security/SANS Training Conference Only one week left to register for discounted SANS training! Reserve your seat now! Please forward this on to anyone in your organization who may be involved in setting-up or maintaining network firewalls. The Universities of the Big 12 and the SANS Institute <http://www.sans.org/> will be hosting the Higher-ed Information Technology Security (HITS) 2006 <http://sans.missouri.edu/> conference on the University of Missouri-Columbia <http://www.missouri.edu/> campus. The conference will be comprised of a 5-day course on Firewalls, Perimeter Protection and VPNs with some additional topics related to IT Security. Dates for the conference are May 21-25, 2006. The SANS Firewalls, Perimeter Protection and VPNs class (SANS Sec502) teaches all the pieces required to properly secure a network and keep it secure in today's incredibly hostile environment. Decoding IP packets, firewalls, intrusion detection, centralized logging and alerting, VPNs, auditing, and network design are all covered in depth, using real-world examples to illustrate the practical knowledge. In addition the course prepares you for the GIAC Certified Firewalls Analyst Certification <http://www.giac.org/certifications/security/gcfw.php> . The optional certification is targeted for any individuals responsible for designing, implementing, configuring, and monitoring a secure perimeter for any organization; including routers, firewalls, VPNs/remote access, and overall network design. GIAC Certified Firewall Analysts (GCFWs) have the knowledge, skills, and abilities to design, configure, and monitor routers, firewalls, and perimeter defense systems. SANS is the most trusted and by far the largest source for information security training and certification in the world. The SANS Institute was established in 1989 as a cooperative research and education organization. Its programs now reach more than 165,000 security professionals, auditors, system administrators, network administrators, chief information security officers, and CIOs who share the lessons they are learning and jointly find solutions to the challenges they face. Special discounts are available for faculty or staff members from any accredited EDU (K-12, Community College, Higher Education), Law Enforcement at the state and local level and state employees. More information and registration information is available at http://sans.missouri.edu <http://sans.missouri.edu/> .

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