November 2006 - KCLUG

Microsoft Firefox- has to be read!
by Oren Beck 26 Nov '06

26 Nov '06

Do NOT read while in a place you cannot laugh hysterically out loud. http://www.msfirefox.com/microsoft-firefox/index.html "Never ascribe malice to that which incompetence amply explains" Oren

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MapLinx or ESRI Buisness Map OSS Replacement
by Dale Beams 22 Nov '06

22 Nov '06

I am looking for a MapLinx, Microsoft Maps or ESRI Buisness Map Replacement in OSS Software. Is there any such beast out there? On-line services will work as well if they provide the same functionality. Dale Beams _________________________________________________________________ Get FREE company branded e-mail accounts and business Web site from Microsoft Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/

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testing list mail
by Brandon Holtsclaw 22 Nov '06

22 Nov '06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 This is just to see if i can send from this address to the list! Nothing to see here, move along .... :) - -- Brandon Holtsclaw imbrandon(a)kubuntu.org http://www.imbrandon.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFZA8tbPuHGYh9n9IRAsQtAJwP3mqRuCK9F7vmtIgnJBVvZogzPQCfdsHp 3/BYE+DYTDjhoneDI3+UrKc= =XEPl -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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SMB Setup
by Jim Herrmann 22 Nov '06

22 Nov '06

Yesterday I purchased a 250 GB Buffalo NAS LinkStation. It works fine from my Ubuntu box, but from my wife's Mandriva box, I can't get it to be writable by a normal user, only by root. The SMB mount shows up as read only, even though I'm not specifying the read only parameter. The share is owned by root, with a group of root. The Buffalo gives me a limited selection as to what I can specify. It has a built in web server that allows the setup to occur. Here you can create shared folders, and specify if they are Read Only or Writable, and this folder is set to writable, and there are no access restrictions. I figure since my Ubuntu box is working correctly with it, it must be something I'm doing at the mount on the Mandriva box. Any thoughts on what I might have set wrong? Thanks, Jim

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Web Programmer/Linux Sysadmin Position At Liberty Schools
by Christopher A. Bier 20 Nov '06

20 Nov '06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Title: Full Time Programmer Deadline: 12/08/2006 Description: Liberty Public Schools is now accepting applications. Send letter of interest and resume to: Trey Katzer, Director of Technology, tkatzer(a)liberty.k12.mo.us , 801 South Kent, Liberty, MO 64068 Requirements: SQL, PHP, Windows/Linux Administration, Networking, Staff Training, Plone/Sharepoint Administration, Python, Java, and C#. Type: Non-certified Online Application: https://www.liberty.k12.mo.us/WorkForLPS/Applications/NoncertApplication.php This person will be working with me. The people here are great, and the benifits are very nice. There probably won't be any Java, and the C#/.net stuff is just if we end up doing any programming with Sharepoint. The SQL and PHP skills are very important, and the admin, Plone, and Python skills would be very nice to have. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFYcp9E5xXU3JS1mQRAtvuAKCdCGdUi19r480drIH2fVvuY5migwCfeKih iBEnsLUKAWKMWkMRAQMxL40= =YlQe -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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RE: MapLinx or ESRI Business Map OSS Replacement
by Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO 20 Nov '06

20 Nov '06

Well, one solution is don't host the mapping project page on the same server as the BMezine page. I looked because I had no idea what it was. I'm not afraid to see what it is, from home of course, but you should mark it as NSFW and maybe with, ewww, look what they did to the ding-ding. I have to say that is one site that grossed me out and amazed me at the same time. Weird what people who are bored can do to themselves. _____ From: Oren Beck Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 2:44 PM I may be guilty of overestimating the knee jerk potential here. But- playing it from my original premise let's still not let our guard down . "WE" may be able to disconnect easily "best programmer" from NSFW pictures. The masses of mundanes sadly are often less open-minded and OSS gets put at risk. THAT was why I listed the Edison grandstanding. As re-assurance that Fear mongering often fails in dramatic reversa Political alignment aside- the link was cringe making to me for it's potential -if nothing else- to get "net nanny" software associating Linux with "Not child safe" material. Oren

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RE: Keypoint and Linux?
by Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO 18 Nov '06

18 Nov '06

I'll admit I was wrong about Cobol being a database. I guess it is in the sense that an encrypted text file or a spreadsheet could be considered the same. But you should at least admit that you are dealing with an old piece of crap. And I mean that in the nicest possible way. ;-) >-----Original Message----- >From: On Behalf Of RtX >Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 1:19 PM > >On 11/16/06, Jeremy Fowler <JFowler(a)westrope.com> wrote: >> Cobol is a programming language but it stores its data in >binary flat >> files. So in a sense it is its own database. There are applications >> that can extract data out of cobol files, but it's a messy >task. There >> is no such beast as an ODBC Cobol driver... > >I knew Cobol was/is a programming language. Someone pointed >the obvious out for me. Thanks. True, there is no ODBC Cobol >driver. Could make things interesting in data conversion. We'll see. > >> We had a Cobol based Agency Management system here four >years ago. We >> ended up moving to a SQL based solution from another vendor. We did >> have to extract some data from the Cobol app, but luckily the new >> vendor had experience with our old system and was able to do >that for >> us. The data wasn't very pretty. > >Did your vendor have to write a data conversion app? I would assume so. > >> I would recommend your client shop around for a more technologically >> advanced trucking system. Or have one designed. > >My client is happy with the current software so shopping is >probably not an option. >

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Free Software Mapping Project
by Luke -Jr 17 Nov '06

17 Nov '06

I suggest we discuss this more either in #kclug or I could start a new channel specifically for it... In particular, we want to see what our planned features are (preferably anything everyone suggests), priorities, and such before we actually start coding. So this would be not just for developers and mappers, but for anyone who would want to use it (which might not require a GPS-- I'd like to support triangulation based on wireless AP signal strengths). :)

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RE: Keypoint and Linux?
by Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO 16 Nov '06

16 Nov '06

Run? How would it use a Cobol database? Cobol is a programming language. There are GNU Cobol components for compiling (gcc, may have to add an extension), but I've never heard of a Cobol database. I'm working with a Sybase database modeling tool on Windows right now (Power Builder 11) and it can work with basically any database and supposedly reverse engineer obscure ones, so they tell me. I'm going to make a broad statement and say that any ODBC-enabled database will work with Winders and you should be able to get it to work with Linux too. Any input from DBAs? >-----Original Message----- >From: On Behalf Of RtX >Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 11:00 AM > >Keypoint did say that they have a few clients running RedHat >Linux for this purpose. They said it uses a Cobol database. > >Suggestions or comments? > >-- >RtX... > >Ty Unes - Overland Park, Ks. >riverty(a)gmail.com

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Keypoint and Linux?
by RtX 16 Nov '06

16 Nov '06

A client of mine is running his trucking operation using Transcore's Keypoint Trucking Software. His current server is a 486-DX2 vintage machine running SCO UNIX. He has serial terminals to "shell in" to the server. I'm in charge of upgrading his setup. He wants Windblows clients (XP Home most likely) and a new server. I wanted to know if anyone has successfully converted this software to Linux? Seems like it would/could work. Keypoint wants to sell him a highly overpriced, under-rated SCO server but I'm not interested in supporting a SCO UNIX box. I would like to build the server "in-house" and run some flavor of Linux. Keypoint did say that they have a few clients running RedHat Linux for this purpose. They said it uses a Cobol database. Suggestions or comments? -- RtX... Ty Unes - Overland Park, Ks. riverty(a)gmail.com

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