February 2005 - KCLUG

RE: Server Fundraiser
by Brian Kelsay 11 Feb '05

11 Feb '05

Bill, can you accept mailed checks for this at your Lumen Software address? Maybe have them make check out to you with a memo of Server Fundraiser and a notation on the outer envelope. This isn't set in stone yet guys, let Bill answer yay or nay first. If not Bill's address then I recommend Chris Bier. Those two are more hands on with the server than most others and I trust them. Hal is too busy right now from what I gather and so am I. Brian Kelsay >>> Garrett Goebel <> 02/11/05 09:02AM >>> Bill Cavalieri wrote: > > I'll start by throwing in $50. I'll match that $50. Where do I send the check? Who should it be made out to?

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RE: Server Fundraiser
by Garrett Goebel 11 Feb '05

11 Feb '05

Bill Cavalieri wrote: > > I'll start by throwing in $50. I'll match that $50. Where do I send the check? Who should it be made out to? -- Garrett Goebel IS Development Specialist ScriptPro Direct: 913.403.5261 5828 Reeds Road Main: 913.384.1008 Mission, KS 66202 Fax: 913.384.2180 www.scriptpro.com garrett at scriptpro dot com Bill Cavalieri wrote: The KCLUG's server is in the process of losing its hard drive. Friday night, the faulty drive will be replaced. We are all lucky in that this was caught early enough, no data will be lost. To reduce our risk of next times failure, we would like to raise enough funds ($275) to purchase at least a 2 port 3ware controller, and a couple sata drives (>= 80's) for mirroring. Also, the server has 512mb's of ram. While this has been plenty, anyone with spare pc133 registered sdram, would not be turned down :) I'd like to do this sometime next month, hopefully giving anyone who can, enough time to budget some monies. I'll start by throwing in $50. Thanks, -Bill Cavalieri _______________________________________________ Kclug mailing list Kclug(a)kclug.org http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug

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Fwd: Re: Server Fundraiser
by Dave Hull 11 Feb '05

11 Feb '05

Too early, not enough coffee. This was meant for the list. Sorry. ----- Forwarded message from Dave Hull <dphull(a)insipid.com> ----- Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 08:45:20 -0600 From: Dave Hull <dphull(a)insipid.com> Reply-To: Dave Hull <dphull(a)insipid.com> Subject: Re: Server Fundraiser To: Brian Kelsay <Brian.Kelsay(a)kcc.usda.gov> Quoting Brian Kelsay <Brian.Kelsay(a)kcc.usda.gov>: > Pass the hat on Tuesday at our next regular meeting. I'll bring some cash. > Bill, Hal or Chris Bier should be the collectors. For those of us living on the fringe who don't make it to meetings, an address and the name of someone to make a check out to would be handy. I'll check through my stockpiles of RAM and see if I've got any registered PC133 sticks laying around too. -- Dave Hull http://insipid.com ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Dave Hull http://insipid.com

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Re: Server Fundraiser
by Brian Kelsay 11 Feb '05

11 Feb '05

Pass the hat on Tuesday at our next regular meeting. I'll bring some cash. Bill, Hal or Chris Bier should be the collectors. Brian Kelsay >>> Bill Cavalieri <> 02/11/05 03:06AM >>> The KCLUG's server is in the process of losing its hard drive. Friday night, the faulty drive will be replaced. We are all lucky in that this was caught early enough, no data will be lost. To reduce our risk of next times failure, we would like to raise enough funds ($275) to purchase at least a 2 port 3ware controller, and a couple sata drives (>= 80's) for mirroring. Also, the server has 512mb's of ram. While this has been plenty, anyone with spare pc133 registered sdram, would not be turned down :) I'd like to do this sometime next month, hopefully giving anyone who can, enough time to budget some monies. I'll start by throwing in $50. Thanks,

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RE: Another PHP question
by Brian Densmore 10 Feb '05

10 Feb '05

> -----Original Message----- > From: Jeremy Turner > > On Thu, Feb 10, 2005 at 09:26:58AM -0600, Brian Densmore wrote: > > ... > > > Which one is the most powerful? > > gVim > > > Which one is the fastest to create in? > > gVim Ok, maybe I should rephrase that. I meant which is the most powerful and fastest in the context of being able to create huge amounts of code in the least amount of time and actual typing/clicking (i.e. RAD). And no vi in any of it's incantations doesn't qualify as a RAD tool. Creating web pages is inherently about creating large amounts of text. I'm looking for ways to cut down on the required amount of text (Think Visual Studio.Net, only better). Not all of us can type 5000 words a minute. I've used Bluefish and Quanta and I like them both. The Zend-Studio looks very much like the direction I want to go. I don't really need .Net drag-n-drop, but if I'm doing something like creating several pages accessing different portions of a database, then having code-snippets that I can select and drop in and customize makes life a lot easier and coding faster. Not to mention reducing the risk of typos. So I guess to expand on my question does Blue-fish or Quanta allow you to add items that would insert code-snippets and where do you like to go to get already been written code snippets? Brian D

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RE: Usability rant [was RE: Help re-installing/restarting Xinerama]
by Brian Densmore 10 Feb '05

10 Feb '05

> -----Original Message----- > From: Jonathan Hutchins > > On Thursday 10 February 2005 12:15 pm, Brian Densmore wrote: > > > But wouldn't it be nice to be able to tell the installation program > > to remove those offending lines, or replace them > > with lines of resolution you want? > > It looks like the Mandrake 10.1 version of xorg is set up > that way - I no > longer have page after page of modelines, although I do have > several that > don't work. > > You also seem to be saying that you want an easy way to change screen > resolution that's not Ctrl-Alt-[+|-]. First, I think your > objection is bogus, Well, not quite what I was saying, but those modelines can get to be a pain. I was complaining about the selection of resolutions defaulting to 640x480, 800x600 and 1024x768. I'd like to tell the install program to drop the first two. And stop raining on my parade by showing solutions. It's hard enough to find anything to rant about on Linux today, as it is, without educated users pointing out solutions. ;') I'll have to look for the button you're talking about. What would be really nice to go along with the screen resize is to change the virtual desktop at the same time, so that you don't have to scroll to find menus and apps, and etc. I'm not sure who ever thought it would be neat to have a virtual desktop that is bigger than your screen... oh ... wait ... that's what the original post was about. ;') But then, at Least with Xinerama you don't need to scroll to see the whole desktop. I find scrolling the desktop to see my apps, well, bothersome. Brian

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Displaying an ellipsis character in a terminal
by Gerald Combs 10 Feb '05

10 Feb '05

Is there any way within bash to display an ellipsis character in xterm, PuTTY, or other terminals in common use?

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Usability rant [was RE: Help re-installing/restarting Xinerama]
by Brian Densmore 10 Feb '05

10 Feb '05

But wouldn't it be nice to be able to tell the installation program to remove those offending lines, or replace them with lines of resolution you want? I know how to do it by editing the X files, and my system already boots that way. However my semi-literate wife would totally lose it if she were to accidentally hit <ctrl><alt><+> and all of a sudden her entire desktop vanishes and is replaced with this new jigsaw puzzle piece of her old screen. This is the way she would see it. She wouldn't recognize the her screen resolution just changed. She would simply reply that that was a stupid thing to do and it just confuses her, couldn't I just get rid of that? As it is she gets frustrated enough, because I have been a lousy system administrator and haven't set up her account by activating all those things she might someday want to use. I love Linux, but there are still a lot of little things that need tweaking to make it easier to maintain. > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Bier > > Brian Densmore wrote: > |>-----Original Message----- > |>From: Leo Mauler > |> > | ... The issue I have is that be default it will create a 640x480 > | screen, then 800x600, then 1024x768. > | ... > | but I'd like to be able to install X and get it > | running at the resolution I choose or higher, not lower. > | ... > | I know my current desktop has the 640 and 800 options in > the X files. > | I've been to lazy to go and edit them out. > <snip /> > > All you have to do is change the order of the modes in the screen > subsection. > ~ This is what the section from my home desktop looks like. > > > Section "Screen" > ... > SubSection "Display" > ~ Depth 32 > ~ Modes "1600x1200" "1200x1024" "1024x768" > "640x480" "800x600" > ~ EndSubSection >

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Help re-installing/restarting Xinerama
by Leo Mauler 10 Feb '05

10 Feb '05

I have a Matrox G450 Dual-Head card with two monitors hooked up to it. When I first installed Mandrake Linux 10.0, it gave me the option of stretching the desktop across to the second monitor, using Xinerama, which I chose to do. After a power failure at the house, the display no longer does this, and instead shows the same thing on both monitors. I can't find any configuration option in the GUI configuration system to reinstall/restart Xinerama. Do you know where the config file for this is? ===== And I always thought: the very simplest words Must be enough. When I say what things are like Everyone's heart must be torn to shreds. That you'll go down if you don't stand up for yourself Surely you see that. -- Bertolt Brecht __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail

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RE: Help re-installing/restarting Xinerama
by Brian Densmore 10 Feb '05

10 Feb '05

> -----Original Message----- > From: Jonathan Hutchins > > ... I'm sure more than one of us anticipated a far more > complicated problem, and > did not trust the simplicity of the obvious answer. > Hopefully Leo will let > us know if we were wrong. Don't you hate it when Occam is right? ;') I never trust anything to be simple when it comes to X. Perhaps, the geeklords of X have grown tired of the complexity as well? One can only hope. I hope to one day be able to tell the X config routine I have a 17" monitor and a video card and I want only 1024x768 resolution or better with more colors than I can count, and have X magically configure it for me. Ah ... I can dream, can't I?

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