KCLUG September 2004

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RE: Changing MTU size
by Daniel Siemens 23 Sep '04

23 Sep '04

If you do a lot of work with ipsec vpn's, Cisco documentation recommends a mtu of 1300 on all systems. In my testing about 1330 is typically safe.

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RE: Anyone seen the new Sun FileSystem
by Brian Densmore 23 Sep '04

23 Sep '04

Well we are talking about a storage capability of 3.4 x10(38th) [that's terabytes to the almost the 9th power]. That's an awful lot of storage and although there might be at some point in the future the capabilities of using such massive amounts of data, it simply doesn't compare to Billy boy's 640k statement. Not to mention we aren't even close to achieving that kind of storage device. Oh sure we could probably build one with current technology, but the cost would be prohibitive and it would probably require liquid cooling. Brian > -----Original Message----- > From: Oren Beck [ > > hanasaki wrote: > > http://www.sun.com/2004-0914/feature/ > > > > Any thoughts? > > . > > <snip> > > Any takers for a bet that Jeff Bonwick's assessment soon > joins that of > Wm Gates - "640 k is enough ." >

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[OT] Forsale: Apple Network Server 500
by Ben Kelley 23 Sep '04

23 Sep '04

I'm doing some cleaning up of the apartment and I have a Apple Network Server 500 that is taking up some floor space and I'm trying to get rid of. Specs are as follows. Apple Network Server 500/132 RISC 132mhz PPC 604 cpu 32mb of ram(upgradable to 512mb) 6 PCI slots 7 scsi bays(one holding a 2gb drive, one holding a cdrom, and another holding a dds2 drive) Runs an Apple version of Aix 4.1.4.1 (media included) This thing is a monster it's basically the size of a minifridge. Altho its a bit outdated, It can run ppc linux and netbsd. It was Apples first attempt at the server market and not too many sold. It runs and has plent of extras(I'll throw in a 14in apple monitor w/ converter and couple keyboards). I'm setting the price at $150 obo, you pick it up(kumed area). -Ben P.S. here is a url with more info on the ANSs http://www.erik.co.uk/ans/

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RE: Linux Support position
by Garrett Goebel 22 Sep '04

22 Sep '04

Brian Densmore wrote: > > Hell, I'd consider posting a Linux position and asking for > > the resume in word format just to go ahead and filter out > > all the religious fanatics and ax grinders ;-) > > Ah ,but religious fanatics need to eat too. Additionally if > some one doesn't grind the axes then when the heads need to > roll there is no sharp ax to use. > > ;') > > Of course, it does no one any good to rant about the faults > of an ad placed in a sincere desire to find a qualified > candidate and thus reduce the level of unemployment. However, > I have no problem carrying on a discussion on such, once the > can has been opened. ;') Well at least you can do so with good humour. And when the fanatics come for me, I do hope the axes are very sharp indeed. Less pain that way... -- Garrett Goebel IS Development Specialist ScriptPro Direct: 913.403.5261 5828 Reeds Road Main: 913.384.1008 Mission, KS 66202 Fax: 913.384.2180 www.scriptpro.com garrett at scriptpro dot com

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RE: Linux Support position
by Brian Densmore 22 Sep '04

22 Sep '04

> -----Original Message----- > From: Garrett Goebel > > I don't get it. All the snide remarks. It's a job offer. I wasn't particularly making snide remarks. I understand that although the job may be for a Linux position, the personnel dept may use Word. I do have a problem with companies that *require* certain formats. What format should it matter if they can access it easily and read it? > I for one appreciate seeing Linux job postings, As do I. > even though I'm not in the market for a job. I actually happen to be entering the market, but can't reply to this ad (at this time), since the only accessible resume I have at this moment is in PDF format, and thus not one of the accepted formats. > And whether it is 3 months, 6 months or 10 years is more likely to be > determined by whether or not you're a pleasant person to work with, ... That wasn't the point. The offering was for 6+ mo but looking at the ad further one can deduce it is really 3 months. So which is it 3 or 6, it helps to know these things up front so that one can be prepared. I simply suspected it was a typo. These things happen. > Much easier to sit on the sidelines and carp. Absolutely. > It's like you're sitting out here waiting for the perfect job to come > served up on a silver platter. I know people like that, I'm not one of them. > Open positions are about the employer's needs. That's part of the problem with society today. It's all about the employer's needs. The employee's needs should also be considered since the employee brings something of value to the employer. > If you want a job and they ask for you're resume in cuniform [sic], you ought to deliver it. Yes, provided what the employer asks for is overburdensome on the applicants to provide. > Hell, I'd consider posting a Linux position and asking for the resume in word format > just to go ahead and filter out all the religious fanatics and ax grinders ;-) Ah ,but religious fanatics need to eat too. Additionally if some one doesn't grind the axes then when the heads need to roll there is no sharp ax to use. ;') Of course, it does no one any good to rant about the faults of an ad placed in a sincere desire to find a qualified candidate and thus reduce the level of unemployment. However, I have no problem carrying on a discussion on such, once the can has been opened. ;') Brian

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RE: Linux Support position
by Garrett Goebel 22 Sep '04

22 Sep '04

Brian Densmore wrote: > > From: Jason Clinton > > On Wed, 2004-09-22 at 09:41, Brian Densmore wrote: > > > Not a problem, OO saves in Word format. I generally send my > > > resumes in PDF exported from OO. That way I know it gets > > > formatted the way I intended and not the way some user has > > > configured his/her office suite. > > > > Isn't that precisely the issue? If I get one page to tell someone > > about my entire professional career, it better look exactly as I > > intended it... PDF wasn't in the list. > > > > Details, details. Don't bother me with details. The Devil is in > the details and my church always told me to stay away from the Devil. ;') > > But he did say text, and well what is PDF if not formatted text. ;')) > > But, I agree with you. Mandating a format that applicants aren't > likely to actually use is bad manners. I was just being a smart-alec. I don't get it. All the snide remarks. It's a job offer. If you don't like it or smell a rat, walk on by. I for one appreciate seeing Linux job postings, even though I'm not in the market for a job. It gives me a means by which to gauge how people are actually using Linux. But hell, even an entry level position is a foot in the door. And whether it is 3 months, 6 months or 10 years is more likely to be determined by whether or not you're a pleasant person to work with, whether you're any good at the primary job role, and whether you're hopelessly over- or under- qualified. And probably in that order. Though I suppose it is much easier to sit back and assume conspiracy theories and plots against yourself. Much easier to sit on the sidelines and carp. It's like you're sitting out here waiting for the perfect job to come served up on a silver platter. Open positions are about the employer's needs. If you want a job and they ask for you're resume in cuniform, you ought to deliver it. Hell, I'd consider posting a Linux position and asking for the resume in word format just to go ahead and filter out all the religious fanatics and ax grinders ;-) -- Garrett Goebel IS Development Specialist ScriptPro Direct: 913.403.5261 5828 Reeds Road Main: 913.384.1008 Mission, KS 66202 Fax: 913.384.2180 www.scriptpro.com garrett(a)scriptpro.com

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LAX Outage due to Windows Crash
by Jonathan Hutchins 22 Sep '04

22 Sep '04

According to TechWorld (http://www.techworld.com/), recent outages at LAX are due to poor integration of an "upgrade" from Unix to Windows: http://www.techworld.com/opsys/news/index.cfm?NewsID=2275 They report that "The servers are timed to shut down after 49.7 days of use in order to prevent a data overload, a union official told the LA Times. To avoid this automatic shutdown, technicians are required to restart the system manually every 30 days. An improperly trained employee failed to reset the system, leading it to shut down without warning...". I dunno about the rest of you, but I can schedule a Windows server to reboot once a week if it's running software suspected of not releasing resources when it should. Wonder why they can't? Wasn't it Microsoft itself that said that Windows should NOT be use for "Mission Critical Applications"?

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RE: Linux Support position
by Brian Densmore 22 Sep '04

22 Sep '04

> -----Original Message----- > From: Jason Clinton > > On Wed, 2004-09-22 at 09:41, Brian Densmore wrote: > > Not a problem, OO saves in Word format. I generally send my > resumes in > > PDF exported from OO. That way I know it gets formatted the way I > > intended and not the way some user has configured his/her > office suite. > > Isn't that precisely the issue? If I get one page to tell > someone about > my entire professional career, it better look exactly as I intended > it... PDF wasn't in the list. > Details, details. Don't bother me with details. The Devil is in the details and my church always told me to stay away from the Devil. ;') But he did say text, and well what is PDF if not formatted text. ;')) But, I agree with you. Mandating a format that applicants aren't likely to actually use is bad manners. I was just being a smart-alec. Brian

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RE: Linux Support position
by Brian Densmore 22 Sep '04

22 Sep '04

> -----Original Message----- > From: Jason Clinton > > Not to mention that they're asking for Linux administrators' resumes > in /MS Word/ or text format. Clearly "someone doesn't get it"^TM. > Not a problem, OO saves in Word format. I generally send my resumes in PDF exported from OO. That way I know it gets formatted the way I intended and not the way some user has configured his/her office suite.

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RE: Anyone seen the new Sun FileSystem
by Brian Densmore 22 Sep '04

22 Sep '04

I have just one question on your new filesystem. How do you compensate for the Hawkings blackhole radiation leak constant in folded space to ensure data integrity? i haven't been able to overcome that yet and keep getting kernel panics. > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Kelsay > > I will use a technique I learned in Boy > Scouts to fold space using a paperclip and a ball of twine > and then pass the requested file information through the > folded space to the quantum API.

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