The reason I said "depending on which report you read" is that "market share leadership" is such a nebulous term, it depends on how it's defined. Some reports I've seen say we have 85% of paid Linux revenue. Some reports say 55% of paid Linux server count. Still others say we're on 70% of all factory prepossessing of Linux.
Frankly, I find all of these suspect for a slew of reasons from statistical accuracy to methodology to just plain common sense.
Probably the closest thing to truth I can find - and even this is probably not the best yardstick - is revenue. Don't take my word for it, our 10K is public, as is Novell 's.
Also Gartner and IDC have some decent data on things like server sales and OS sales. Go look at those.
But the assertion that only managers and marketing types like RHEL, and real men like Debian is just absurd. What runs the NYSE? What does the FAA use to support the ~8000 planes in the air in US airspace every day? Hint: it ain't Debian.
TC
Jonathan Hutchins hutchins@tarcanfel.org wrote:
On Monday 23 May 2011 04:17:54 pm thomas@redhat.com wrote:
We own between 65 and 85 percent of the Linux server market, depending on which report you read. Debian based distros are not really even a blip on the radar from a commercial standpoint.
Based on number of licenses sold, or total revenue?
IBM has a big share of the POS market, and their POS system is based on SuSE. They don't count the licenses on a per-terminal basis as far as I know, so their "market share" would be skewed too. I know of only one very small specialty POS system based on RHEL. _______________________________________________ KCLUG mailing list KCLUG@kclug.org http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug
Meanwhile, on Linode[1]...
48% Ubuntu 24% Debian 16% CentOS 4.3% Fedora 3.1% Gentoo
Now granted, #1 in nonpaying customers is kind of a tough spot to be in. And the RHEL pricing model doesn't lend itself to The Cloud. I imagine Canonical has a paid agreement to cater their OS to EC2, but we can't read their 10-K's so we'll never know.
Justin
[1] http://www.linode.com/about/
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 11:35 PM, thomas@redhat.com thomas@redhat.com wrote:
The reason I said "depending on which report you read" is that "market share leadership" is such a nebulous term, it depends on how it's defined. Some reports I've seen say we have 85% of paid Linux revenue. Some reports say 55% of paid Linux server count. Still others say we're on 70% of all factory prepossessing of Linux.
Frankly, I find all of these suspect for a slew of reasons from statistical accuracy to methodology to just plain common sense.
Probably the closest thing to truth I can find - and even this is probably not the best yardstick - is revenue. Don't take my word for it, our 10K is public, as is Novell 's.
Also Gartner and IDC have some decent data on things like server sales and OS sales. Go look at those.
But the assertion that only managers and marketing types like RHEL, and real men like Debian is just absurd. What runs the NYSE? What does the FAA use to support the ~8000 planes in the air in US airspace every day? Hint: it ain't Debian.
TC
Jonathan Hutchins hutchins@tarcanfel.org wrote:
On Monday 23 May 2011 04:17:54 pm thomas@redhat.com wrote:
We own between 65 and 85 percent of the Linux server market, depending on which report you read. Debian based distros are not really even a blip on the radar from a commercial standpoint.
Based on number of licenses sold, or total revenue?
IBM has a big share of the POS market, and their POS system is based on SuSE. They don't count the licenses on a per-terminal basis as far as I know, so their "market share" would be skewed too. I know of only one very small specialty POS system based on RHEL. _______________________________________________ KCLUG mailing list KCLUG@kclug.org http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug _______________________________________________ KCLUG mailing list KCLUG@kclug.org http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug
May as well throw in my two cents. The government office I work in, which is supporting one of the largest Departments of the US government and probably the second largest Agency within that Dept., uses RedHat when they choose Linux. We have DNS and DHCP for at least 60,000 users running RHEL. We run web servers and Tomcat application servers on it. I believe that some Windows 2003 and 2008 Servers run in VMware instances on top of RHEL. I don't support that stuff, so it's a bit of a mystery. I do support RedHat mail servers as dedicated machines for sending fingerprint data to the FBI.
We have a mixed environment here, RedHat, Windows 2003 and 2008, Mainframe, System 36, AS400, Active Directory and Windows XP on desktop. Most places are some kind of mix as services are added over time. Use what works, use what you can get a support contract for if it matters that the server is down. If you have an SLA, cover your ass.
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