Linux question, GUI "lightweight" text editors
For those out there familiar with UltraEdit in Windows, I have a questioon. Is there a single Linux Editor that has most if not all the features of UltraEdit? For those that use Windows and don't use UltraEdit, you're missing out on the BEST Windows Editor there is. Partial list of functions: column or line text selection/editing, search with regular expressions, display/edit in hex, search in a directory tree for a string returning all lines found with filename and line number and line of text, replace in a directory tree a string, use special keystrokes in above two features to search and or replace or add nonprinting characters (e.g. newline), syntax highlighting, custom syntax definitions, word count, file position display (line and column), macros, line sorting, data conversion (e.g. ASCII -> EBCDIC), etc. There are a lot more features, but I rarely use more than this. This seems like something relatively easy to do in Linux, as all the basic tools seem to be available in any distro, but I can't say I've seen any editor with all of them. UltraEdit is $20 btw, and well worth it. It's paid for itself for me many times over. I couldn't tell you how many hours of work it has saved me. In fact it paid for itself the first time I ever used it. I'd pay $20 for a Linux solution that did all this. I'd probably pay even more than $20 for it. Like I said, it looks easy, but not necessarily quick to build. I'm sure I could build one, if I had a few hundred hours of spare time. Brian JD
Jack wrote:
For those out there familiar with UltraEdit in Windows, I have a questioon. Is there a single Linux Editor that has most if not all the features of UltraEdit?
For those that use Windows and don't use UltraEdit, you're missing out on the BEST Windows Editor there is.
Partial list of functions:
column or line text selection/editing, search with regular expressions, display/edit in hex, search in a directory tree for a string returning all lines found with filename and line number and line of text, replace in a directory tree a string, use special keystrokes in above two features to search and or replace or add nonprinting characters (e.g. newline), syntax highlighting, custom syntax definitions, word count, file position display (line and column), macros, line sorting, data conversion (e.g. ASCII -> EBCDIC), etc.
There are a lot more features, but I rarely use more than this. This seems like something relatively easy to do in Linux, as all the basic tools seem to be available in any distro, but I can't say I've seen any editor with all of them. UltraEdit is $20 btw, and well worth it. It's paid for itself for me many times over. I couldn't tell you how many hours of work it has saved me. In fact it paid for itself the first time I ever used it. I'd pay $20 for a Linux solution that did all this. I'd probably pay even more than $20 for it. Like I said, it looks easy, but not necessarily quick to build. I'm sure I could build one, if I had a few hundred hours of spare time.
Brian JD
I think Nedit is what you're looking for. http://www.nedit.org/ It can do pretty much everything on your list except edit in hex. I've added a few commands to mine. It also has a win32 version in cygwin. Chris
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I think Nedit is what you're looking for. http://www.nedit.org/ It can do pretty much everything on your list except edit in hex. I've added a few commands to mine. It also has a win32 version in cygwin.
Looks pretty cool to me! I wasn't aware of this project...thanks for the link! If Nedit doesn't fit the bill (and you're willing to pay more than $20), there's always Visual Slick Edit which is commercial and multi-platform. I haven't used it yet (still using CodeWright, but I'll have to switch to something else soon, since CW has gone the way of the Dodo), but it looks promising. Ultra Edit and Visual Slick Edit (and now Nedit) are high on my short-list of editors to check out when the pain of running a dated version of CodeWright becomes too much to bear. Visual Slick Edit: http://www.slickedit.com/content/view/73/60/ - -- Charles Steinkuehler charles@steinkuehler.net -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEZiUgLywbqEHdNFwRAn79AJ9cYx/TWrOTEo07+eytP58vTE9wpQCfQA6K m2Jr+Z4lUXL9jymXVrPryjw= =kpRh -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Saturday 13 May 2006 18:27, Charles Steinkuehler wrote:
If Nedit doesn't fit the bill (and you're willing to pay more than $20), there's always Visual Slick Edit which is commercial and multi-platform.
And if you're willing to sacrifice your freedoms and rights solely because some company wants a monopoly...
--- Luke-Jr wrote:
On Saturday 13 May 2006 18:27, Charles Steinkuehler wrote:
If Nedit doesn't fit the bill (and you're willing to pay more than $20), there's always Visual Slick Edit which is commercial and multi-platform.
And if you're willing to sacrifice your freedoms and rights solely because some company wants a monopoly... I had forgotten about NEdit. It does do quite a bit, but still it lacks a few very slick features that Ultraedit has. While I'd be willing to pay more than $20 for a true UltraEdit clone in Linux - no editor is worth $300. I'll grant Slick Edit is very impressive, but why would anyone buy Slick Edit for $300 when you can have UltraEdit for $20? As for freedoms and rights, I believe that a company has the freedom and right to sell a proprietary solution. I'm actually a bit taken aback at how many in the Linux community look down on those who wish to sell their painstakingly written software for ... gasp ... money! Sure there are lots of OSS tools out there that are free as in beer and speech. Fact is I don't mind paying for Linux and good software. I do have a problem paying for software that forces a relearning with every version and one where old files are no longer readable by newer versions. I mean my God if a company can't even remember how to read a file structure from one release ago how good can the current software be? Take VB6 to VB.Net. All I can say is, OMFG!
Well enough ranting for one night. I also think it's time I put to rest my search for an UltraEdit Linux clone. Obviously there isn't one. I will say that NEdit is very very good though. Thanks for the comments, Brian JD
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--- Luke-Jr wrote: I had forgotten about NEdit. It does do quite a bit, but still it lacks a few very slick features that Ultraedit has. <snip />
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Way back when this thread started, I tried to ask this question, but the reply only went to the sender, so I'll try again: One of the desired features of the windows editor in question was column editing; does anybody know if vim has this capability and, if so, how to call it? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher A. Bier" <chris.bier@cymor.com> Date: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 7:18 am Subject: Re: Linux question, GUI "lightweight" text editors To: kclug@kclug.org
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--- Luke-Jr wrote: I had forgotten about NEdit. It does do quite a bit, but still it lacks a few very slick features that Ultraedit has. <snip />
Which features are those? Maybe we could add them.
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Way back when this thread started, I tried to ask this question, but the reply only went to the sender, so I'll try again: One of the desired features of the windows editor in question was column editing; does anybody know if vim has this capability and, if so, how to call it?
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Way back when this thread started, I tried to ask this question, but the reply only went to the sender, so I'll try again: One of the desired features of the windows editor in question was column editing; does anybody know if vim has this capability and, if so, how to call it?
Heh. Sorry. I misread that. In vim, it's Ctrl+V -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFEaiZrE5xXU3JS1mQRAoytAJ9ObzQyC8DtAnwVqRNNAMPQMMxtKgCg1AS3 r/IVsMfb66h76NS+a9wCVUk= =7WXI -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
--- "Christopher A. Bier" wrote:
--- Luke-Jr wrote: I had forgotten about NEdit. It does do quite a bit, but still it lacks a few very slick features that Ultraedit has. <snip />
Which features are those? Maybe we could add them.
The features I most desire are searching and replacing over multiple files with a single search, pulling in the result of the search into a "new" document. Also, when searching in a file, I'd like a pop-up list of finds which can be clicked on to take me to any find in the document. Yes I know I can repeatedly "find next". It's not the same as having the whole list in a single screen with all the extra lines stripped out. Now a "new" document with each find would be useful also. I'm sure that macros could be written in NEdit and other editors to do this. So it's not that I consider Linux editors inferior or less capable. NEdit was the only editor I used on my laptop before the disk went south, and I installed GEdit on my desktop by mistake. NEdit, GEdit - cut me some slack I'm only off by one letter. ;') Well it's late ... or early. Need for sleep is present. Thanks everyone for the input! Brian JD
--- "Jason D. Clinton" wrote:
On Tue, 2006-05-16 at 23:22 -0700, Jack wrote:
...blah blah ....
I hate Java as much as the next guy but JEdit has every feature you listed. It's widely praised as the best alternative to Vim and Emacs. I can't stand the ugliness of Java sometimes so I only use it when I need to. So it does! So why didn't you say so earlier? Now all I have to do is get it to install in debian. Thanks. It looks like exactly what I was looking for. I have no issues with java so that won't bother me any. Not sure why there sems to be such hatred about java.
Thanx, Brian jd
On Wed, 2006-05-17 at 16:53 -0700, Jack wrote:
So it does! So why didn't you say so earlier? Now all I have to do is get it to install in debian. Thanks. It looks like exactly what I was looking for. I have no issues with java so that won't bother me any. Not sure why there sems to be such hatred about java.
I am getting happier with them now that Swing can run with GTK+ widgets and Java can be distributed with Linux distributions. By the way, Debian Unstable has Java in the non-free repository as of two days ago.
--- Luke-Jr wrote:
On Tuesday 16 May 2006 04:52, Jack wrote:
I'm actually a bit taken aback at how many in the Linux community look down on those who wish to sell their painstakingly written software for ... gasp ... money!
Who does that? This is a troll right? :')
Well, my 2 yr old is being tooooooooooo quiet, So I need to sign off. brian jd
Did you try running it under wine? http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?appId=65 --Ian On 5/12/06, Jack <quiet_celt@yahoo.com> wrote:
For those out there familiar with UltraEdit in Windows, I have a questioon. Is there a single Linux Editor that has most if not all the features of UltraEdit?
For those that use Windows and don't use UltraEdit, you're missing out on the BEST Windows Editor there is.
Partial list of functions:
column or line text selection/editing, search with regular expressions, display/edit in hex, search in a directory tree for a string returning all lines found with filename and line number and line of text, replace in a directory tree a string, use special keystrokes in above two features to search and or replace or add nonprinting characters (e.g. newline), syntax highlighting, custom syntax definitions, word count, file position display (line and column), macros, line sorting, data conversion (e.g. ASCII -> EBCDIC), etc.
There are a lot more features, but I rarely use more than this. This seems like something relatively easy to do in Linux, as all the basic tools seem to be available in any distro, but I can't say I've seen any editor with all of them. UltraEdit is $20 btw, and well worth it. It's paid for itself for me many times over. I couldn't tell you how many hours of work it has saved me. In fact it paid for itself the first time I ever used it. I'd pay $20 for a Linux solution that did all this. I'd probably pay even more than $20 for it. Like I said, it looks easy, but not necessarily quick to build. I'm sure I could build one, if I had a few hundred hours of spare time.
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