Well we are talking about a storage capability of 3.4 x10(38th) [that's terabytes to the almost the 9th power]. That's an awful lot of storage and although there might be at some point in the future the capabilities of using such massive amounts of data, it simply doesn't compare to Billy boy's 640k statement. Not to mention we aren't even close to achieving that kind of storage device. Oh sure we could probably build one with current technology, but the cost would be prohibitive and it would probably require liquid cooling.
Brian
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hanasaki wrote:
http://www.sun.com/2004-0914/feature/
Any thoughts? .
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Any takers for a bet that Jeff Bonwick's assessment soon joins that of Wm Gates - "640 k is enough ."
Brian Densmore wrote:
Well we are talking about a storage capability of 3.4 x10(38th) [that's terabytes to the almost the 9th power]. That's an awful lot of storage and although there might be at some point in the future the capabilities of using such massive amounts of data, it simply doesn't compare to Billy boy's 640k statement. Not to mention we aren't even close to achieving that kind of storage device. Oh sure we could probably build one with current technology, but the cost would be prohibitive and it would probably require liquid cooling.
Brian
-----Original Message----- From: Oren Beck [
hanasaki wrote:
http://www.sun.com/2004-0914/feature/
Any thoughts? .
<snip>
Any takers for a bet that Jeff Bonwick's assessment soon joins that of Wm Gates - "640 k is enough ."
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I brought some of this up at last night's breakfast . Some folks seem to take this filesystem with the usual NaCl granule that all press releases _should_be taken with , At worst that may be all that comes of this - another stock puffer attempt based on a vaporware . I sense that this *could* be different . Again to be honest my detail skill in the esoterica of filesystems is way below many others here. SO some constructive review of this from folks who know truth from vapor would help us all .
And the comments about "cooling" or areal density per device overlook the bigger picture . The crazy vision to me is a
We now have commodity external drives of 500 gig that at $1/gig and dropping make spatial RAID an interesting viral market . That office having a fat pipe to the world that goes unused from 1700 to 0745 could make some credits in a new economy for hosting a piconode . Merely plugging some Videotape mailer sized boxes into a firewire port and AC - hit the web register interface and allocate XXX Gb to the "pool" in trade for whatever exchange medium this unborn as yet may use . NOTE : one possible use is locally mirroring not only a Distro but Archival versions of any OSS projects that code rollback may someday be a good idea for . Example further is projects being walked away from by creators who would donate their files for future resurrection .
The grand unification in filesystems that IF it's not vaporware made possible here would allow this and more to become trivial!
Oren Beck
www.campdownunder.com
" That comment about standing on the shoulders of Giants lacks any feedback from the big guys themselves "
Oren Beck wrote:
I brought some of this up at last night's breakfast . Some folks seem to take this filesystem with the usual NaCl granule that all press releases _should_be taken with , At worst that may be all that comes of this - another stock puffer attempt based on a vaporware . I sense that this *could* be different . Again to be honest my detail skill in the esoterica of filesystems is way below many others here. SO some constructive review of this from folks who know truth from vapor would help us all .
Depending on the size of your granule, you may want to try chopping them up with a razor blade or the edge of a credit card. At least until they pass easily through the rolled up hundred and are no longer irritating to the nose of the user. Puffing is not the preferred method, a light inhalation through one nostril while holding the other closed will do just nicely. It is unlikely you will get the particles small enough to be a vapor unless you perform some other action upon the granule, such as heating. Please sharpen esoterica if you intend to use it in the kitchen and don't want to saw through your material. Sharpening your tools is always time well spent. va·por (va'per) n.
1. Barely visible or cloudy diffused matter, such as mist, fumes, or smoke, suspended in the air. 2. 1. The state of a substance that exists below its critical temperature and that may be liquefied by application of sufficient pressure. 2. The gaseous state of a substance that is liquid or solid under ordinary conditions. 3. 1. The vaporized form of a substance for use in industrial, military, or medical processes. 2. A mixture of a vapor and air, as the explosive gasoline-air mixture burned in an internal-combustion engine.
And the comments about "cooling" or areal density per device overlook the bigger picture . The crazy vision to me is a
I sense your confusion here. Some fellows are very unaware of the names of female-specific tissues. The areola is the small circle of tissue around the nipp..., well, never mind. They do like to be blown on. Some prefer devices, but that is the exception, not the norm. Your fetishists may like temporary jewelry or clamps, but others go so far as piercing. I would think that might hurt a lot.
We now have commodity external drives of 500 gig that at $1/gig and dropping make spatial RAID an interesting viral market . That office having a fat pipe to the world that goes unused from 1700 to 0745 could make some credits in a new economy for hosting a piconode . Merely plugging some Videotape mailer sized boxes into a firewire port and AC - hit the web register interface and allocate XXX Gb to the "pool" in trade for whatever exchange medium this unborn as yet may use . NOTE : one possible use is locally mirroring not only a Distro but Archival versions of any OSS projects that code rollback may someday be a good idea for . Example further is projects being walked away from by creators who would donate their files for future resurrection .
Don't make fun of the size of people's pipes, it's not polite. And what they choose to do with it in the off-hours is their own darn business. I say whatever goes on behind closed doors is none of my business however, one young man made $50,000 for his off-hours efforts in May. Whether he had to split that with his employer or the computer, I don't have that information. And you keep your pipe out of my pool. Just keep it to yourself. As far as I know, it is illegal to trade in the born or unborn. Up until last month however, it was legal to practice necrophilia in the state of California. Don't count on resurrection, that doesn't happen very often. I've had the occasional cold fish, but that is just too gross. And how do you get around the whole morgue, cold table thing. Eeeaaghh. What does the OSS have to do with anything? That organization morphed into the CIA and NSA long ago. Well, the NSA does develop some encryption software and that whole SElinux thing. Their archives are closed, I know, I've tried to peek in. They waved the whole national security policy thing in my face, but I wasn't buying it. I know they are the source of, well, better lubricants.
The grand unification in filesystems that IF it's not vaporware made possible here would allow this and more to become trivial!
Grand unification field theory requires math that you obviously don't possess. And again with the vapor. It's a field and by no means trivial, even if you had the math. We're talking stuff Einstein and the Berenstein Bears couldn't figure out. Not to mention that whispering Hawking guy. It's the quiet ones you have to watch out for you know.
Oren Beck
www.campdownunder.com
" That comment about standing on the shoulders of Giants lacks any feedback from the big guys themselves "
Have you ever seen the Giants up close. Those are some big baseball players. I doubt they'd let anybody stand on their shoulders unless they won the pennant.
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Brian Kelsay wrote:
Oren Beck wrote:
I brought some of this up at last night's breakfast . Some folks seem to take this filesystem with the usual NaCl granule that all press releases _should_be taken with , At worst that may be all that comes of this - another stock puffer attempt based on a vaporware . I sense that this *could* be different . Again to be honest my detail skill in the esoterica of filesystems is way below many others here. SO some constructive review of this from folks who know truth from vapor would help us all .
Depending on the size of your granule, you may want to try chopping them up with a razor blade or the edge of a credit card. At least until they pass easily through the rolled up hundred and are no longer irritating to the nose of the user. Puffing is not the preferred method, a light inhalation through one nostril while holding the other closed will do just nicely. It is unlikely you will get the particles small enough to be a vapor unless you perform some other action upon the granule, such as heating. Please sharpen esoterica if you intend to use it in the kitchen and don't want to saw through your material. Sharpening your tools is always time well spent. va·por (va'per) n.
- Barely visible or cloudy diffused matter, such as mist, fumes, or
smoke, suspended in the air. 2. 1. The state of a substance that exists below its critical temperature and that may be liquefied by application of sufficient pressure. 2. The gaseous state of a substance that is liquid or solid under ordinary conditions. 3. 1. The vaporized form of a substance for use in industrial, military, or medical processes. 2. A mixture of a vapor and air, as the explosive gasoline-air mixture burned in an internal-combustion engine.
And the comments about "cooling" or areal density per device overlook the bigger picture . The crazy vision to me is a
I sense your confusion here. Some fellows are very unaware of the names of female-specific tissues. The areola is the small circle of tissue around the nipp..., well, never mind. They do like to be blown on. Some prefer devices, but that is the exception, not the norm. Your fetishists may like temporary jewelry or clamps, but others go so far as piercing. I would think that might hurt a lot.
We now have commodity external drives of 500 gig that at $1/gig and dropping make spatial RAID an interesting viral market . That office having a fat pipe to the world that goes unused from 1700 to 0745 could make some credits in a new economy for hosting a piconode . Merely plugging some Videotape mailer sized boxes into a firewire port and AC - hit the web register interface and allocate XXX Gb to the "pool" in trade for whatever exchange medium this unborn as yet may use . NOTE : one possible use is locally mirroring not only a Distro but Archival versions of any OSS projects that code rollback may someday be a good idea for . Example further is projects being walked away from by creators who would donate their files for future resurrection .
Don't make fun of the size of people's pipes, it's not polite. And what they choose to do with it in the off-hours is their own darn business. I say whatever goes on behind closed doors is none of my business however, one young man made $50,000 for his off-hours efforts in May. Whether he had to split that with his employer or the computer, I don't have that information. And you keep your pipe out of my pool. Just keep it to yourself. As far as I know, it is illegal to trade in the born or unborn. Up until last month however, it was legal to practice necrophilia in the state of California. Don't count on resurrection, that doesn't happen very often. I've had the occasional cold fish, but that is just too gross. And how do you get around the whole morgue, cold table thing. Eeeaaghh. What does the OSS have to do with anything? That organization morphed into the CIA and NSA long ago. Well, the NSA does develop some encryption software and that whole SElinux thing. Their archives are closed, I know, I've tried to peek in. They waved the whole national security policy thing in my face, but I wasn't buying it. I know they are the source of, well, better lubricants.
The grand unification in filesystems that IF it's not vaporware made possible here would allow this and more to become trivial!
Grand unification field theory requires math that you obviously don't possess. And again with the vapor. It's a field and by no means trivial, even if you had the math. We're talking stuff Einstein and the Berenstein Bears couldn't figure out. Not to mention that whispering Hawking guy. It's the quiet ones you have to watch out for you know.
Oren Beck
www.campdownunder.com
" That comment about standing on the shoulders of Giants lacks any feedback from the big guys themselves "
Have you ever seen the Giants up close. Those are some big baseball players. I doubt they'd let anybody stand on their shoulders unless they won the pennant.
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I have done 2 replys to this - one is in drafts and may mercifully stay there . THIS one is more blunt because the situation has gotten simply beyond niceties . MY post was placed above the silly ones to redirect to something I failed at making my points about . Some of us were interested in the filesystem on it's merits or lack of IF we could have gotten that far . Others have quite obviously passed judgment by their directing the thread over the edge . SO we disagree on verbiage and also on technical points . That 's possibly a stimulant to constructive traffic on a list. Carrying that disagreement into Ad Hominem territory is not a good thing For the list or it's members . Either to initiate or respond in kind to it . So On List at least let's not any of us go there .
Urinary competitions have no real winners of anything worthy !
Let's get back to the original thread topic after this hopefully disposes of the silly stuff . Because some of us may want to explore a potentially disruptive concept as it is being born !
My closing banishment is directed at the miasma called discourtesy festering among us . Folks- let's be better than that .
Oren
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