I read a lot on the response to getting games to play with "Wine", "VMware," and "Cedega 5.1" however, we on this forum are here because we want a chose and can afford the opportunity to play around with what ever distro we want. Ask your self, how many computers do you own? what would happen if you lost a system do to experimenting, Chances are your awnser is somewhat like mine, reload the software and see what I did wrong. I betting most of your personnel files are backed up somewhere safe, so you can frag your system and no harm done. The majority of Non-Linx user I encounter have one hard drive, and one computer, and have files of value they don't want to lose.
My point behind this is we as a user base need to develop, or put pressure on game companies to make games so that the disc can be inserted, installed and played by people who don't want to rip out their hair, trying to figure Linux out.
And the first person who tells me that they should go to microsoft, I swear I going to slap with a salted mackerel, microsoft has too much........
On 6/24/07, Earle Beason Earle-Beason@kc.rr.com wrote:
I read a lot on the response to getting games to play with "Wine", "VMware," and "Cedega 5.1" however, we on this forum are here because we want a chose and can afford the opportunity to play around with what ever distro we want. Ask your self, how many computers do you own? what would happen if you lost a system do to experimenting, Chances are your awnser is somewhat like mine, reload the software and see what I did wrong. I betting most of your personnel files are backed up somewhere safe, so you can frag your system and no harm done. The majority of Non-Linx user I encounter have one hard drive, and one computer, and have files of value they don't want to lose.
My point behind this is we as a user base need to develop, or put pressure on game companies to make games so that the disc can be inserted, installed and played by people who don't want to rip out their hair, trying to figure Linux out.
And the first person who tells me that they should go to microsoft, I swear I going to slap with a salted mackerel, microsoft has too much........
Kclug mailing list Kclug@kclug.org http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug
/me hands you self refilling barrel of salted mackerel...
And your comment about insert,install, and play.?
What of skipping the "install" by thinking outside the box a bit. IF the issues are ones of the Resident OS either being damaged by an install or not being able to play nice with an install for another flavor of OS? simply IGNORE the OS and run as Ramdisk.
It''s not too extreme an entry requirement to expect a DVD drive for this plan is it? IF that hardware spec is coupled with a certain RAM size then we set a new game plan up. We've become comfortable with livedistros and Ramdisk based operation. Putting those together with the concept of a Gentoo style build process then offers something new.
A livedistro that probes for the essential system resources to run the game in question. That bulid file gets written to a net folder or local storage, thence multisession written to the media the game itself is on. What in the end is wrought by this seemingly odd path?
A liveDVD incarnation of a game that has been built to only have those resources for it's intended host.
Not a damned bit on that created from the "build stage": media would be unneeded. And that needed part would include enough blank media space to save character data etc That's the windup to the pitch. The real pitch is a new game. The new game- horrid pun intentional - is running the whole Linux OS and the game app as Ramdisk. IT works along this model.
Some forward thinking soul will release a game in this incarnation or something akin to it. The folks who bought 8 gig ram capable motherboards will stuff those boards that full. After the initial reports of games that run under Linux of any sort that no longer suck we gain stret cred.
From that we keep on running and raising the bar. DO note my use of the term
"media" in addition to the initially mentioned DVD. IF we can buy a 2G USB drive for <$20 at Micro Center today ,how long does it take to buy a game packaged as I described delivered on such a drive.
Ohyeah- the "piracy" and "GottstohaveDRM' issues get crucified by anything released this way being GPL/Creative Commons etc. There's an inherent short circuit to this project lurking for some bright soul to extract and begin printing money with.. Contact me off list if you see it too. And we can hatch it as a possibly lucrative venture- but it only works if we get the right crew - which we have most of on this list.
Oren Beck "Yes, it builds itself just for your system"
On 6/24/07, Earle Beason Earle-Beason@kc.rr.com wrote:
I read a lot on the response to getting games to play with "Wine", "VMware," and "Cedega 5.1" however, we on this forum are here because we want a chose and can afford the opportunity to play around with what ever distro we want. Ask your self, how many computers do you own? what would happen if you lost a system do to experimenting, Chances are your awnser is somewhat like mine, reload the software and see what I did wrong. I betting most of your personnel files are backed up somewhere safe, so you can frag your system and no harm done. The majority of Non-Linx user I encounter have one hard drive, and one computer, and have files of value they don't want to lose.
My point behind this is we as a user base need to develop, or put pressure on game companies to make games so that the disc can be inserted, installed and played by people who don't want to rip out their hair, trying to figure Linux out.
And the first person who tells me that they should go to microsoft, I swear I going to slap with a salted mackerel, microsoft has too much........
Kclug mailing list Kclug@kclug.org http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug
/me hands you self refilling barrel of salted mackerel...
Ok- let's look at this from another angle. It''s not too extreme an entry requirement to expect a DVD drive for this plan is it? IF that hardware spec is coupled with a certain RAM size then we set a new game plan up. We've become comfortable with livedistros and Ramdisk based operation. Putting those together with the concept of a Gentoo style build process then offers something new.
A livedistro that probes for the essential system resources to run the game in question. That bulid file gets written to a net folder or local storage, thence multisession written to the media the game itself is on. What in the end is wrought by this seemingly odd path?
A liveDVD incarnation of a game that has been built to only have those resources for it's intended host.
Not a damned bit on that created from the "build stage": media would be unneeded. And that needed part would include enough blank media space to save character data etc That's the windup to the pitch. The real pitch is a new game. The new game- horrid pun intentional - is running the whole Linux OS and the game app as Ramdisk. IT works along this model.
Some forward thinking soul will release a game in this incarnation or something akin to it. The folks who bought 8 gig ram capable motherboards will stuff those boards that full. After the initial reports of games that run under Linux of any sort that no longer suck we gain stret cred.
From that we keep on running and raising the bar. DO note my use of the term
"media" in addition to the initially mentioned DVD. IF we can buy a 2G USB drive for <$20 at Micro Center today ,how long does it take to buy a game packaged as I described delivered on such a drive.
Ohyeah- the "piracy" and "GottstohaveDRM' issues get crucified by anything released this way being GPL/Creative Commons etc. There's an inherent short circuit to this project lurking for some bright soul to extract and begin printing money with.. Contact me off list if you see it too. And we can hatch it as a possibly lucrative venture- but it only works if we get the right crew - which we have most of on this list.
Oren Beck
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