hey all long time member but i never post anything i just read it all. anyway i got a toshiba satalite A105-S4054 and im tired of using windows xp on every thing (i keep it on my main comp b/c i play alot of games) and i want linux oin my laptop because i love the freedome and all the stuff i can do and change on linux. is athere a good distro to put on a laptop computer or is any distro good? please tell me something good im looking forward to hearing from ya'll.
thanks!
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On Sun, 2006-10-22 at 01:11 -0500, steve trog wrote:
hey all long time member but i never post anything i just read it all. anyway i got a toshiba satalite A105-S4054 and im tired of using windows xp on every thing (i keep it on my main comp b/c i play alot of games) and i want linux oin my laptop because i love the freedome and all the stuff i can do and change on linux. is athere a good distro to put on a laptop computer or is any distro good? please tell me something good im looking forward to hearing from ya'll.
I recently got a new Sony Vaio and I put Ubuntu on it. I was impressed that pretty much everything worked out of the box except the built-in webcam.
On Sunday 22 October 2006 09:09, Brad wrote:
I recently got a new Sony Vaio and I put Ubuntu on it. I was impressed that pretty much everything worked out of the box except the built-in webcam.
Even though I use Debian for everything, I also recommend that you use Ubuntu if you are new to Linux and especially if you are going to be using a laptop.
On Sunday 22 October 2006 18:36, Jason D. Clinton wrote:
On Sunday 22 October 2006 09:09, Brad wrote:
I recently got a new Sony Vaio and I put Ubuntu on it. I was impressed that pretty much everything worked out of the box except the built-in webcam.
Even though I use Debian for everything, I also recommend that you use Ubuntu if you are new to Linux and especially if you are going to be using a laptop.
You mean Kubuntu...
does ubuntu come in one of those books that you can buy at the store, like redhat, fedora core or suse does? i like to get the ones that come with the book even though im ot new to linux im not the master with it.
P.S. what days is ITech on? i wanna go this year i havnt been in a while. i also wanna see your guys' booth.
From: "Jason D. Clinton" me@jasonclinton.com To: kclug@kclug.org, brad@bradandkim.net CC: steve trog scuba_steve660022@hotmail.com Subject: Re: linux distro for laptop Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 13:36:19 -0500
On Sunday 22 October 2006 09:09, Brad wrote:
I recently got a new Sony Vaio and I put Ubuntu on it. I was impressed that pretty much everything worked out of the box except the built-in webcam.
Even though I use Debian for everything, I also recommend that you use Ubuntu if you are new to Linux and especially if you are going to be using a laptop.
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I'll agree with Ubuntu as well. I put it on an old Toshiba Tecra 8000, and 6.06 had found the thermal controls, audio, video (eventhough there is no 3D accell for the NeoMagic chipet it runs), the Dell OEM Orinoco PC Card, etc. I added a "vga=792" to the grub configs so that it will always have a full screen console in a normal boot. Otherwise it's been mostly running fine as-is. Of course it's only a P2 300, but with 256MB RAM it's comfortable. I also put 6.06 PC on a B&W G3 Mac. It installed and recognized most things fine as well. There is not accell support for ATI cards on PPC, so the stock 66MHz PCI video sucks, but such is life.
Jon.
On 10/22/06, steve trog scuba_steve660022@hotmail.com wrote:
does ubuntu come in one of those books that you can buy at the store, like redhat, fedora core or suse does? i like to get the ones that come with the book even though im ot new to linux im not the master with it.
P.S. what days is ITech on? i wanna go this year i havnt been in a while. i also wanna see your guys' booth.
From: "Jason D. Clinton" me@jasonclinton.com To: kclug@kclug.org, brad@bradandkim.net CC: steve trog scuba_steve660022@hotmail.com Subject: Re: linux distro for laptop Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 13:36:19 -0500
On Sunday 22 October 2006 09:09, Brad wrote:
I recently got a new Sony Vaio and I put Ubuntu on it. I was impressed that pretty much everything worked out of the box except the built-in webcam.
Even though I use Debian for everything, I also recommend that you use Ubuntu if you are new to Linux and especially if you are going to be using a laptop.
-- Jason D. Clinton Something clever goes on this line.
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On PPC?
Jon.
On 10/22/06, Luke-Jr luke@dashjr.org wrote:
On Sunday 22 October 2006 23:54, Jon Pruente wrote:
There is not accell support for ATI cards on PPC, so the stock 66MHz PCI video sucks, but such is life.
Nonsense. My Radeon 9200 SE and laptop's Radeon 7200 work fine for even 3D accel. :) _______________________________________________ Kclug mailing list Kclug@kclug.org http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug
--- steve trog scuba_steve660022@hotmail.com wrote:
does ubuntu come in one of those books that you can buy at the store, like redhat, fedora core or suse does? i like to get the ones that come with the book even though im ot new to linux im not the master with it.
Ubuntu generally comes as a download, or you can have one shipped to you free. I haven't seen an Ubuntu Book yet.
P.S. what days is ITech on? i wanna go this year i havnt been in a while. i also wanna see your guys' booth.
ITEC is October 25-26. You might still be able to register for their free Exhibition Hall access pass (reportedly a $50 value!).
Or you might be able to sign up as a KCLUG Exhibitor (if no one minds...).
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On 10/22/06, steve trog scuba_steve660022@hotmail.com wrote:
does ubuntu come in one of those books that you can buy at the store, like redhat, fedora core or suse does? i like to get the ones that come with the book even though im ot new to linux im not the master with it.
There are several books out there:
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw/002-7745978-8775268?url=search-alias%3D...
Several of the books listed come with a CD or DVD. The ones I know off the top of my head are:
The Ubuntu Book Ubuntu Linux: From Novice to Professional Ubuntu Unleashed
I have seen all three of these books in local B&N, Borders, and Microcenter, as well as online.
(K)(X)Ubuntu has a wealth of information in the forums and wikis, as well.
While it is a genetic mutation of Debian, the new "Freespire" distribution shows a little promise for weirdo hardware. The main difference between Freespire and real Debian is that Freespire deliberately includes proprietary (i.e., "non-free") software, drivers, and codecs in its regular packages; whereas Debian adopts a much more stringent "free-only" approach to its packages, requiring you to take additional steps to gain access to "non-free" sections of Debian servers.
In other words, you are much more likely to find weirdo hardware drivers in the "non-free" section than in the "free" section. Coincidentally, you are more likely to find weirdo hardware on laptops, and be less likely, if not unable, to swap out the weirdo hardware for something Linux-compatible.
--- steve trog scuba_steve660022@hotmail.com wrote:
hey all long time member but i never post anything i just read it all. anyway i got a toshiba satalite A105-S4054 and im tired of using windows xp on every thing (i keep it on my main comp b/c i play alot of games) and i want linux oin my laptop because i love the freedome and all the stuff i can do and change on linux. is athere a good distro to put on a laptop computer or is any distro good? please tell me something good im looking forward to hearing from ya'll.
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As I'm sure you all know, MS Vista is coming out soon and has "all the buzz" on the internet. If you have run any of the Vista Beta's (or RC's) then you know what kind of GUI they are pushing called "Aero Glass."
So, while tooling around the Linux stuff I ran across a distro called Sabayon Linux. This distro runs "Beryl" which is like an X overlay that gives your window manager some very cool eye candy that would certainly compete with "Aero Glass." I'm currently running the 64-bit version on my laptop and I must say, "it's slick!" I'm sure that if people saw this it would "wow" them considerably. There is a downside to this distro however in that it is Gentoo Linux, not one of the more "n00by-friendly" distros out there.
There's still time. If someone has a decent (hardware) machine to install and run Sabayon, it would be an eye-catcher at the show! Check it out at: http://www.sabayon.org/.
There is a video showing off this great distro on YouTube. Go to YouTube and search for Sabayon.
On 10/22/06, Leo Mauler webgiant@yahoo.com wrote:
While it is a genetic mutation of Debian, the new "Freespire" distribution shows a little promise for weirdo hardware. The main difference between Freespire and real Debian is that Freespire deliberately includes proprietary (i.e., "non-free") software, drivers, and codecs in its regular packages; whereas Debian adopts a much more stringent "free-only" approach to its packages, requiring you to take additional steps to gain access to "non-free" sections of Debian servers.
In other words, you are much more likely to find weirdo hardware drivers in the "non-free" section than in the "free" section. Coincidentally, you are more likely to find weirdo hardware on laptops, and be less likely, if not unable, to swap out the weirdo hardware for something Linux-compatible.
--- steve trog scuba_steve660022@hotmail.com wrote:
hey all long time member but i never post anything i just read it all. anyway i got a toshiba satalite A105-S4054 and im tired of using windows xp on every thing (i keep it on my main comp b/c i play alot of games) and i want linux oin my laptop because i love the freedome and all the stuff i can do and change on linux. is athere a good distro to put on a laptop computer or is any distro good? please tell me something good im looking forward to hearing from ya'll.
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On Monday 23 October 2006 13:59, RtX wrote:
So, while tooling around the Linux stuff I ran across a distro called Sabayon Linux. This distro runs "Beryl" which is like an X overlay that gives your window manager some very cool eye candy that would certainly compete with "Aero Glass." ... There is a downside to this distro however in that it is Gentoo Linux, not one of the more "n00by-friendly" distros out there.
The 3D desktop is available on Mandriva 2007 as well, but not really ready for prime time.
Beryl is the free, open fork of Novell/SuSE Linux' Compiz desktop, which one must assume is available for SuSE.
There are many challenges in getting it to work on certain hardware, but some people seem to luck out. I've heard that it works better with Gnome than with KDE, and of course works for more mid-to-high end, recent systems than either exotic or legacy hardware.
The most telling thing I've heard said about it is "now if only someone would write some software that actually did something with all this".
On Mon, 2006-10-23 at 17:07 -0500, Luke -Jr wrote:
On Monday 23 October 2006 14:13, Jonathan Hutchins wrote:
I've heard that it works better with Gnome than with KDE,
KDE doesn't support it at all yet. Any supposed KDE doing stuff like this is using Compiz/Beryl, not KWin (which is a required part to be KDE)
The Beryl fork of Compiz has removed all GNOME dependencies. It is now a completely stand-alone application.
On Tuesday 24 October 2006 01:23, you wrote:
On Mon, 2006-10-23 at 17:07 -0500, Luke -Jr wrote:
On Monday 23 October 2006 14:13, Jonathan Hutchins wrote:
I've heard that it works better with Gnome than with KDE,
KDE doesn't support it at all yet. Any supposed KDE doing stuff like this is using Compiz/Beryl, not KWin (which is a required part to be KDE)
The Beryl fork of Compiz has removed all GNOME dependencies. It is now a completely stand-alone application.
But you can't use it with KWin/KDE.
On 10/22/06, steve trog scuba_steve660022@hotmail.com wrote:
hey all long time member but i never post anything i just read it all. anyway i got a toshiba satalite A105-S4054 and im tired of using windows xp on every thing (i keep it on my main comp b/c i play alot of games) and i want linux oin my laptop because i love the freedome and all the stuff i can do and change on linux. is athere a good distro to put on a laptop computer or is any distro good? please tell me something good im looking forward to hearing from ya'll.
I would fully recommend OpenBSD even though it is neither Linux, nor a distro. OpenBSD 4.0 which will be released in a little over a week will support your wireless (taken from http://openbsd.org/40.html): New binary blob free wpi(4) driver for Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG IEEE 802.11a/b/g wireless. Though if you are wanting everything done for you configuration wise this may not be for you totally, the only configuration stuff I have had to do. Pertained to add services such as OpenNTPD, and apache, which can all be read in the documentation. Other than the there were other minor stuff like changing xorg.conf to fit my laptop screen.
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