I've recently upgraded (if you can call it that) to SuSE 9.3 Pro, and it came with Firefox 1.0 as the default browser.
Thinks started out pretty good, but now at various times my computer just seems to loose its attention. I have to click again on links and buttons, just to get it to go where I want.
I don't know whether that is a result of my slow prrocessor (500 MHz k6-2) or if someone hacked into Firefox while I was online.
Just curious if you guys have seen anything similar . . . ??????
Gary Hildebrand St. Joseph, MO
If you're running Firefox 1.0, you probably want to download and install the latest. There are a number of security fixes and other patches since 1.0. I'm not sure this has anything to do with your problem though. If you think your system has been compromised, boot the system with a liveCD, after disconnecting from the internet of course, and run diagnostics against the system.
Brian D.
--- Gary Hildebrand ghildebrand@centurytel.net wrote:
I've recently upgraded (if you can call it that) to SuSE 9.3 Pro, and it came with Firefox 1.0 as the default browser.
Thinks started out pretty good, but now at various times my computer just seems to loose its attention. I have to click again on links and buttons, just to get it to go where I want.
I don't know whether that is a result of my slow prrocessor (500 MHz k6-2) or if someone hacked into Firefox while I was online.
Just curious if you guys have seen anything similar . . . ??????
Gary Hildebrand St. Joseph, MO
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On Friday 27 May 2005 10:31, Gary Hildebrand wrote:
I've recently upgraded (if you can call it that) to SuSE 9.3 Pro, and it came with Firefox 1.0 as the default browser.
Thinks started out pretty good, but now at various times my computer just seems to loose its attention. I have to click again on links and buttons, just to get it to go where I want.
I don't know whether that is a result of my slow prrocessor (500 MHz k6-2) or if someone hacked into Firefox while I was online.
Just curious if you guys have seen anything similar . . . ??????
I recently discovered that a horde of programs now take advantage of the session save and restore functions in KDE and Gnome... things that you think have been shut down (but that really went to a background process) that were never added to any kind of "start up list" will keep coming back each time you log in because they have been "restored to their previously running state" by the session manager. You can solve this by telling the desktop environment that you do NOT want to save a list of programs that are running when you log out and do NOT attempt to restart them when you log back in.
It cleaned things up quite a bit for me.
I will try this out. Just for those who don't spend a lot of time in the KDE Control Center, I finally found the option Jason is referring too in KDE Components -> Session Manager. That might save some people some time.
Thanks, Jim
Jason Clinton wrote:
On Friday 27 May 2005 10:31, Gary Hildebrand wrote:
I've recently upgraded (if you can call it that) to SuSE 9.3 Pro, and it came with Firefox 1.0 as the default browser.
Thinks started out pretty good, but now at various times my computer just seems to loose its attention. I have to click again on links and buttons, just to get it to go where I want.
I don't know whether that is a result of my slow prrocessor (500 MHz k6-2) or if someone hacked into Firefox while I was online.
Just curious if you guys have seen anything similar . . . ??????
I recently discovered that a horde of programs now take advantage of the session save and restore functions in KDE and Gnome... things that you think have been shut down (but that really went to a background process) that were never added to any kind of "start up list" will keep coming back each time you log in because they have been "restored to their previously running state" by the session manager. You can solve this by telling the desktop environment that you do NOT want to save a list of programs that are running when you log out and do NOT attempt to restart them when you log back in.
It cleaned things up quite a bit for me.
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On 5/28/05, Jason Clinton me@jasonclinton.com wrote:
On Friday 27 May 2005 10:31, Gary Hildebrand wrote:
I've recently upgraded (if you can call it that) to SuSE 9.3 Pro, and it came with Firefox 1.0 as the default browser.
you DO want to upgrade that baby to the current release (1.04) ASAP. Tools->options->advanced->check for updates now will do it for you.
This is happening right now in Firefox 1.0. I don't understand it either.
This never happens in Mozilla (hint, hint to the Mozilla people thinking of killing off the Mozilla browser...).
--- Gary Hildebrand ghildebrand@centurytel.net wrote:
I've recently upgraded (if you can call it that) to SuSE 9.3 Pro, and it came with Firefox 1.0 as the default browser.
Thinks started out pretty good, but now at various times my computer just seems to loose its attention. I have to click again on links and buttons, just to get it to go where I want.
I don't know whether that is a result of my slow prrocessor (500 MHz k6-2) or if someone hacked into Firefox while I was online.
Just curious if you guys have seen anything similar . . . ??????
Gary Hildebrand St. Joseph, MO
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On Friday 10 June 2005 08:02 pm, Leo Mauler wrote:
This is happening right now in Firefox 1.0. I don't understand it either.
This never happens in Mozilla (hint, hint to the Mozilla people thinking of killing off the Mozilla browser...).
Uhm, Leo? Firefox IS the Mozilla browser. Mozilla is just Firefox plus a bunch of other stuff. Firefox is Mozilla is Mosaic - and I might even have a copy of some of the Mosaic bug reports I filed that are STILL VALID to prove it.
(One of the best things Microsoft ever did was a ground-up rewrite of the Mosaic code after they bought it and realized that it was not salvagable.)
On Fri, 10 Jun 2005, Jonathan Hutchins wrote:
Firefox is Mozilla is Mosaic
(One of the best things Microsoft ever did was a ground-up rewrite of the Mosaic code after they bought it and realized that it was not salvagable.)
So, if I'm following your logic here, you're stating that Firefox is not salvageable?
Regards,
-Don
On Saturday 11 June 2005 07:50 am, Don Erickson wrote:
On Fri, 10 Jun 2005, Jonathan Hutchins wrote:
(One of the best things Microsoft ever did was a ground-up rewrite of the Mosaic code after they bought it and realized that it was not salvagable.)
So, if I'm following your logic here, you're stating that Firefox is not salvageable?
I believe one of the problems they have is that they have never done the same kind of ground-up rewrite, they still have patches on their patches and are still struggling with layer after layer of "if 2+2=5 then answer=4" cruft. Then again, they've never really shown any interest in fixing bugs or problems with the infrastructure. Mozilla/Mozaic/Firefox is all about features!!!
On Saturday 11 June 2005 07:50, Don Erickson wrote:
So, if I'm following your logic here, you're stating that Firefox is not salvageable?
Some interesting evidence for both sides of that argument:
http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/01/14/1514205
I am also reminded of the bug that affected the rendering of Slashdot for 1 year between Mozilla 1.4 and Firefox 1.0 because the code in Gecko is so hard to parse that a) it took forever to figure out what was happening and b) the proposed "fixes" all broke something else.
On Fri, 10 Jun 2005, Jonathan Hutchins wrote:
Uhm, Leo? Firefox IS the Mozilla browser. Mozilla is just Firefox plus a bunch of other stuff. Firefox is Mozilla is Mosaic - and I might even have a copy of some of the Mosaic bug reports I filed that are STILL VALID to prove it.
(One of the best things Microsoft ever did was a ground-up rewrite of the Mosaic code after they bought it and realized that it was not salvagable.)
I am not sure you have done all your research.
http://www.mozilla.org/newlayout/
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D. Hageman wrote:
On Fri, 10 Jun 2005, Jonathan Hutchins wrote:
Uhm, Leo? Firefox IS the Mozilla browser. Mozilla is just Firefox plus a bunch of other stuff. Firefox is Mozilla is Mosaic - and I might even have a copy of some of the Mosaic bug reports I filed that are STILL VALID to prove it.
(One of the best things Microsoft ever did was a ground-up rewrite of the Mosaic code after they bought it and realized that it was not salvagable.)
I am not sure you have done all your research.
The layout engine wasn't the only thing that was (re)written from scratch. The UI toolkit (XPFE + XUL + a crapload of other stuff), networking library (Necko), and pretty much every other part of the browser were as well. Applications that aid in development such as Bugzilla, Tinderbox, and Bonsai were also written from the ground up.
--- Jonathan Hutchins hutchins@tarcanfel.org wrote:
On Friday 10 June 2005 08:02 pm, Leo Mauler wrote:
This is happening right now in Firefox 1.0. I don't understand it either.
This never happens in Mozilla (hint, hint to the Mozilla people thinking of killing off the Mozilla browser...).
Uhm, Leo? Firefox IS the Mozilla browser. Mozilla is just Firefox plus a bunch of other stuff. Firefox is Mozilla is Mosaic
No, Firefox != Mozilla. Firefox is based on the Gecko engine and Mozilla is based on the Gecko engine, but the two browsers are very different.
Also Mozilla gives a lot more control over the browsing experience than Firefox does, and I dislike many of the context-sensitive menus (for example, when I right click on a Tab I am usually trying to close it, not open a "New Tab").
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most UI specs state that close, and exit should be at the bottom of menu's for consistancy
Leo Mauler wrote:
--- Jonathan Hutchins hutchins@tarcanfel.org wrote:
On Friday 10 June 2005 08:02 pm, Leo Mauler wrote:
This is happening right now in Firefox 1.0. I don't understand it either.
This never happens in Mozilla (hint, hint to the Mozilla people thinking of killing off the Mozilla browser...).
Uhm, Leo? Firefox IS the Mozilla browser. Mozilla is just Firefox plus a bunch of other stuff. Firefox is Mozilla is Mosaic
No, Firefox != Mozilla. Firefox is based on the Gecko engine and Mozilla is based on the Gecko engine, but the two browsers are very different.
Also Mozilla gives a lot more control over the browsing experience than Firefox does, and I dislike many of the context-sensitive menus (for example, when I right click on a Tab I am usually trying to close it, not open a "New Tab").
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