The shortest form of the question is this: Would you ever consider placing on a Googlemap either your site locations or at least the Zip code? That's the bedrock of the concept. And in addition would you ever consider posting a signal survey of wireless signal around your sites? Note that includeds could be home-work-other "nodes" you admin etc. The "why" is several reasons. It could show how many of us there are a bit more clearly. It could show areas to seek mesh net fill in spots or beams. There are good implications we have not yet considered. Worrying about the bad ones is simply not productive ON LIST ok? IF you feel bound to make comments not positive- MAKE A NEW THREAD!!! I regret having had reason to post that - yet history shows... If you are on this list and a Linux user- are you able to "see" or even connect to any other ap's The reason for this is to visualise our increasing userbase, both Linux and wireless. -- Oren Beck 816.729.3645