You mean to say "Are you paranoid if they really are out to get you."
"Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you."
What is the link between geeks and paranoia?
Both are obsessed with trivial, nearly useless pieces of information that no one else sees, or cares about.
Both weave these tiny pieces of data into a coherent pattern, and then use insight from the pattern recursively to reveal specific anomolies with which they then tinker.
When debugging, the geek does something constructive with the skill. When paranoid, the geek is simply thinking about himself too much.
This email is trivial, and nearly useless, and therefore recursive.
:)
-Jared
Let's look again at my tagline's more sinister implications. People with _hostile_ intent who by default will "find" something you have done-and use it against you . Absent finding things they will fabricate evidence. Primarily it seems merely to "justify" their salary. More sinister still is their extending the process.
Eventually we WILL have a situation where no matter how cautious you are - you are breaking some law or rule. Some mundane action even if otherwise "innocent" and "They get you for it"
SO to restate the concept-
"Is it paranoia if there REALLY are hostile people in your daily world intent on catching you at something-or fabricating it- so they can justify their salary?"
And where does this ramble go back at all "on topic? " The mention of KDE storing "userdata" in distributed locations. It took me a while to abstract the similarity. But the windows pattern of increasing layers of "userdata" hidden in multiple locations and even ROT-13 obscured to keep those with no "need to know" from even knowing it's THERE! Makes it easier to "get you". Of course you are innocent? Oh? So when "they" find something prohibited on your hard drive? And "Zero Tolerance" takes over? The real truth ? I now openly suspect KDE of eventual userdata replication in places NOT well documented to the mundane usere. Even if it's not the KDE team's goal- the damage is the same.
Actually, I suspect that there is a requirement or movement for KDE and other GUI/OS, etc to store this information, etc to be allowed to be of use in US jursidiction. You just don't know it yet. How many of us have went through the code of linux/X.org/Favorite GUI to check and see what lies there.
From: "Oren Beck" orenbeck@gmail.com To: kclug@kclug.org Subject: Re: Critical info (was Upgrading...) Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 09:25:45 -0600
Let's look again at my tagline's more sinister implications. People with _hostile_ intent who by default will "find" something you have done-and use it against you . Absent finding things they will fabricate evidence. Primarily it seems merely to "justify" their salary. More sinister still is their extending the process.
Eventually we WILL have a situation where no matter how cautious you are - you are breaking some law or rule. Some mundane action even if otherwise "innocent" and "They get you for it"
SO to restate the concept-
"Is it paranoia if there REALLY are hostile people in your daily world intent on catching you at something-or fabricating it- so they can justify their salary?"
And where does this ramble go back at all "on topic? " The mention of KDE storing "userdata" in distributed locations. It took me a while to abstract the similarity. But the windows pattern of increasing layers of "userdata" hidden in multiple locations and even ROT-13 obscured to keep those with no "need to know" from even knowing it's THERE! Makes it easier to "get you". Of course you are innocent? Oh? So when "they" find something prohibited on your hard drive? And "Zero Tolerance" takes over? The real truth ? I now openly suspect KDE of eventual userdata replication in places NOT well documented to the mundane usere. Even if it's not the KDE team's goal- the damage is the same.
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RE: looking at the code in OS or GUI.
The watchdog against such creeping erosion of our liberty thru malicious software is US. That is, those of us who can degub deliberate hidings. The deeper question is WHY such hidden betrayal systems exist at all. It becomes a 2 part explanation. Political and Technical. Which explanation is more probable?
The summary is that those of us who CAN catch THEM at the game need to begin reporting it to the world or the world will become a place where reporting such things gets you liquidated. And are you willing to bet your life that I am wrong?
On 1/12/07, Dale Beams drbeams@hotmail.com wrote:
Actually, I suspect that there is a requirement or movement for KDE and other GUI/OS, etc to store this information, etc to be allowed to be of use in US jursidiction. You just don't know it yet. How many of us have went through the code of linux/X.org/Favorite GUI to check and see what lies there.
From: "Oren Beck" orenbeck@gmail.com To: kclug@kclug.org Subject: Re: Critical info (was Upgrading...) Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 09:25:45 -0600
Let's look again at my tagline's more sinister implications. People with _hostile_ intent who by default will "find" something you have done-and use it against you . Absent finding things they will fabricate evidence. Primarily it seems merely to "justify" their salary. More sinister still is their extending the process.
Eventually we WILL have a situation where no matter how cautious you are - you are breaking some law or rule. Some mundane action even if otherwise "innocent" and "They get you for it"
SO to restate the concept-
"Is it paranoia if there REALLY are hostile people in your daily world intent on catching you at something-or fabricating it- so they can justify their salary?"
And where does this ramble go back at all "on topic? " The mention of KDE storing "userdata" in distributed locations. It took me a while to abstract the similarity. But the windows pattern of increasing layers of "userdata" hidden in multiple locations and even ROT-13 obscured to keep those with no "need to know" from even knowing it's THERE! Makes it easier to "get you". Of course you are innocent? Oh? So when "they" find something prohibited on your hard drive? And "Zero Tolerance" takes over? The real truth ? I now openly suspect KDE of eventual userdata replication in places NOT well documented to the mundane usere. Even if it's not the KDE team's goal- the damage is the same.
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