On 6/27/06, Luke-Jr luke@dashjr.org wrote:
One goal of Utopios's new package manager is to more or less always build from source, but if it's already been done, use those binaries. Think Portage, but if someone has compatible CHOST/CFLAGS and the same USE flags, it will use their binaries or distcc if they're not done yet. Plus a bit of security measures, of course.
That is one of the reason I got away from Gentoo is compile from source all the time take hours on end to update the system and something always breaking or possibility of breaking was much higher than OpenBSD. I don't care about all the "speed" gained if any at all with CHOST/CFLAGS I just want it to install and go that is why I use packages and rest is compiled ports. (though if you want Java installed it took like 14 hours to compile from ports which kinda suck) Not saying OpenBSD is perfect in there pkg manager, but it works for me. And pkg management has been much more stable with OpenBSD over Gentoo. Also not everything is the lastest and greatest version of a software, usually newest as of release and updates for security. I know a lot of this wouldn't matter (compiling from source) as much if I had a faster desktop machine (currently use a Dual 700Mhz/1GB RAM as my desktop).
On Tuesday 27 June 2006 19:22, djgoku wrote:
On 6/27/06, Luke-Jr luke@dashjr.org wrote:
One goal of Utopios's new package manager is to more or less always build from source, but if it's already been done, use those binaries. Think Portage, but if someone has compatible CHOST/CFLAGS and the same USE flags, it will use their binaries or distcc if they're not done yet. Plus a bit of security measures, of course.
That is one of the reason I got away from Gentoo is compile from source all the time take hours on end to update the system
That's presuming you have that single computer compiling everything for itself. Consider what would happen if all compatible computers worked together to compile it once (or even a few times, for security checking). If you and Joe User across the country both need the same build of Apache, why should each of you need to compile the same thing yourself?
and something always breaking or possibility of breaking was much higher than OpenBSD.
That's not a difference between binary and source package origins.
I don't care about all the "speed" gained if any at all with CHOST/CFLAGS
CHOST/CFLAGS are primarily about compatibility. The power of source compilation is in changing the build-time configuration settings.
I just want it to install and go that is why I use packages and rest is compiled ports.
Somebody had to compile your binary packages. This would be similar, except you have the other users also building packages, and not just your OS's builders.
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