I was recently referred to a skills testing site, proveit.com. They have a number of Linux skills tests available - all of which can only be taken in Internet Explorer running on Windows.
It occurs to me that yes, there is a world where all the admins run Windows and manage their Linux systems and servers with putty, or more likely vnc or a web interface. I'm sure this is more common in the "enterprise" Linux world than in my experience.
Besides the tests working only in Windows, they say that they were tested in Firefox 2.0 and IE6 - the latter being a notorious security hole that Microsoft has struggled in vain to get rid of.
Anyway, just so you know, anybody citing proveit.com testing as evidence of Linux knowledge is pulling your leg.
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 12:39:54 -0500, Jonathan Hutchins wrote:
I was recently referred to a skills testing site, proveit.com. They have a number of Linux skills tests available - all of which can only be taken in Internet Explorer running on Windows.
I'm going to disagree on this point as I recall taking a couple tests via this site a few years back (2007?) with a Fedora desktop and Firefox browser.
It occurs to me that yes, there is a world where all the admins run Windows and manage their Linux systems and servers with putty, or more likely vnc or a web interface. I'm sure this is more common in the "enterprise" Linux world than in my experience.
Besides the tests working only in Windows, they say that they were tested in Firefox 2.0 and IE6 - the latter being a notorious security hole that Microsoft has struggled in vain to get rid of.
Anyway, just so you know, anybody citing proveit.com testing as evidence of Linux knowledge is pulling your leg.
The agency cited proveit.com testing as evidence of my C knowledge and PL/SQL knowledge at the time.
Thanks, -- Hal Duston hald@kc.rr.com
Has anyone recently audited their site etc to see if this is a current reality? Meaning, have we been disallowed on Linux/Mac/Android in the present time. As if that's proven to be so- no access absent crud like WGA etc, the company's a MS shill and undeserving of our respect. Duplicity incarnate?
It's a dubious way to establish Open Source and Linux community respect, let alone credibility by having ANY situation of a MS requirement. Personally, I'd not consider them as being fully in the proper orbit absent an Open Source access path.
Yes, the company may be legit re: honesty and credibility in the testing/cert areas.
But, requiring MS at all, let alone IE6 is simply made of Pure, Epic FAIL.
If they're claiming to be an Open Source/Linux participant., and still they demand MS be the only path to them, they're almost akin to the Bird Shop with no Birds. Frankly, I can see *ZERO* reason for demanding MS be used for test/cert of Linux skills.
Now, a test exercise where you'd have to spoof user strings etc to simulate being IE6, from SeaMonkey..
Oren Beck
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 1:53 AM, Hal Duston hald@kc.rr.com wrote:
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 12:39:54 -0500, Jonathan Hutchins wrote:
I was recently referred to a skills testing site, proveit.com. They have a number of Linux skills tests available - all of which can only be taken in Internet Explorer running on Windows.
I'm going to disagree on this point as I recall taking a couple tests via this site a few years back (2007?) with a Fedora desktop and Firefox browser.
It occurs to me that yes, there is a world where all the admins run Windows and manage their Linux systems and servers with putty, or more likely vnc or a web interface. I'm sure this is more common in the "enterprise" Linux world than in my experience.
Besides the tests working only in Windows, they say that they were tested in Firefox 2.0 and IE6 - the latter being a notorious security hole that Microsoft has struggled in vain to get rid of.
Anyway, just so you know, anybody citing proveit.com testing as evidence of Linux knowledge is pulling your leg.
The agency cited proveit.com testing as evidence of my C knowledge and PL/SQL knowledge at the time.
Thanks,
Hal Duston hald@kc.rr.com _______________________________________________ KCLUG mailing list KCLUG@kclug.org http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug
On Friday 10 June 2011 12:53:27 pm Hal Duston wrote:
The agency cited proveit.com testing as evidence of my C knowledge and PL/SQL knowledge at the time.
Which is not to say that your knowledge of those systems is not excellent, only that their credibility, given that they purport to certify Linux skills, is nill.
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 08:33:22 -0500, Jonathan Hutchins wrote:
On Friday 10 June 2011 12:53:27 pm Hal Duston wrote:
The agency cited proveit.com testing as evidence of my C knowledge and PL/SQL knowledge at the time.
Which is not to say that your knowledge of those systems is not excellent, only that their credibility, given that they purport to certify Linux skills, is nill.
They had enough credibility that I got the job, which is all I care about. Credibility with a user group is secondary.
Thanks, -- Hal Duston hald@kc.rr.com Kansas City, MO 816-916-7219
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 12:39 PM, Jonathan Hutchins hutchins@tarcanfel.orgwrote:
I was recently referred to a skills testing site, proveit.com. They have a number of Linux skills tests available - all of which can only be taken in Internet Explorer running on Windows.
It occurs to me that yes, there is a world where all the admins run Windows and manage their Linux systems and servers with putty, or more likely vnc or a web interface. I'm sure this is more common in the "enterprise" Linux world than in my experience.
cygwin's rxvt now comes with usable defaults OOTB; ssh in a cygwin rxvt is rapidly replacing Putty for me at least
Besides the tests working only in Windows, they say that they were tested in Firefox 2.0 and IE6 - the latter being a notorious security hole that Microsoft has struggled in vain to get rid of.
Anyway, just so you know, anybody citing proveit.com testing as evidence of Linux knowledge is pulling your leg.
were the tests bogus? did they cover trivia only applicable to obsolete versions of RHEL? You'll need a better accusation than "their website didn't work with my rig" to invalidate them as a human resources criterion in my opinion.
Just to reiterate, it was the proveit.com support staff who stated explicitly that their site did not work with Linux and required IE on Windows, although the site requirements say it was tested with Firefox 2.0 (ca 2001).
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