Today is an example of Weather raising concerns about travel safety in some areas. I'd expect common sense to bat last but we all know that Darwin Bats Last. So therefore can we consider some rules for meeting cancels and informing us about it?
MY short concept is if the closest public school to the meeting location is closed =no meeting Most of us would bookmark a suitable to us source and be done, I think we can do better.
IF that's agreeable? Then it gets checked as to which school- and a link to the school closings list is placed on the KCLUG splash page explaining why and how to use it. Added utility may be someone with expert "script fu" writes a mailbot to notify us "School X Closed- No meeting tonight"
" Non List? Hit the KCLUG intro page. See the item about "Is there a meeting?" Click. Answered."
Oren Beck
Or can any one do better?
"Why is it called Common Sense" if it's so rare?"
I dunno, I thought we were all grownups.
If the facility in question is closed, qed no meeting. If it's open and your foul-weather driving skills are up to it, who ever makes it to the meeting is the meeting.
On Dec 9, 2007 3:34 PM, Jonathan Hutchins hutchins@tarcanfel.org wrote:
If the facility in question is closed, qed no meeting. If it's open and your foul-weather driving skills are up to it, who ever makes it to the meeting is the meeting.
Exactly. The only time we've ever cancelled a meeting was because the Library was closed.
This does raise an issue for impending test meeting. If our hosts be of the mind that the weather doth well and truly suck, how do we find out? The Library is the sort of institution that notifies the TV/radio stations, so they appear on lists of closings. Rather than fielding calls from a dozen or three geeks, I'd expect them to want to do something similar.
And given our proclivities, I'd expect we'd give Vital Systems' management a special login for kclug.org that allows them to flag that night's meeting as cancelled due to weather, terrorist threat, etc. without having to locate whoever has the keys to the Executive Washroom.
Definitely something to think about.
I think the prudent thing to do is see what happens tonight and whether our office will even be open tomorrow. If it is and I am able to get to work then I see no reason why we cannot have our meeting in the evening. However, if the office is closed or I am not able to get to work then I think since it is a trial run meeting we should call it off. I will send an email out as soon as I know something tomorrow and let people know. I will send it to the email list and post it on the Forum. That should cover everyone.
On Dec 9, 2007 3:34 PM, Jonathan Hutchins hutchins@tarcanfel.org wrote:
If the facility in question is closed, qed no meeting. If it's open and your foul-weather driving skills are up to it, who ever makes it to the meeting is the meeting.
Exactly. The only time we've ever cancelled a meeting was because the Library was closed. This does raise an issue for impending test meeting. If our hosts be of the mind that the weather doth well and truly suck, how do we find out? The Library is the sort of institution that notifies the TV/radio stations, so they appear on lists of closings. Rather than fielding calls from a dozen or three geeks, I'd expect them to want to do something similar. And given our proclivities, I'd expect we'd give Vital Systems' management a special login for kclug.org that allows them to flag that night's meeting as cancelled due to weather, terrorist threat, etc. without having to locate whoever has the keys to the Executive Washroom.
Definitely something to think about.
I am really concerned about trying to have this meeting tonight here at our office. I don't think it is worth everyone risking themselves to try and come to a meeting that is not a regularly scheduled meeting. Since we cannot tell what will happen this afternoon I think it is just better all around to postpone the trial run meeting at Vital Support Systems to another day. Let me know what everyone thinks.
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From: kclug-bounces@kclug.org [mailto:kclug-bounces@kclug.org] On Behalf Of Phil Thayer Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 9:07 AM To: kclug@kclug.org Subject: RE: Setting common rules about weather cancels of KCLUG events. I think the prudent thing to do is see what happens tonight and whether our office will even be open tomorrow. If it is and I am able to get to work then I see no reason why we cannot have our meeting in the evening. However, if the office is closed or I am not able to get to work then I think since it is a trial run meeting we should call it off. I will send an email out as soon as I know something tomorrow and let people know. I will send it to the email list and post it on the Forum. That should cover everyone.
On Dec 9, 2007 3:34 PM, Jonathan Hutchins hutchins@tarcanfel.org wrote:
If the facility in question is closed, qed no meeting. If it's open and your foul-weather driving skills are up to it, who ever makes it to the meeting is the meeting.
Exactly. The only time we've ever cancelled a meeting was because the Library was closed. This does raise an issue for impending test meeting. If our hosts be of the mind that the weather doth well and truly suck, how do we find out? The Library is the sort of institution that notifies the TV/radio stations, so they appear on lists of closings. Rather than fielding calls from a dozen or three geeks, I'd expect them to want to do something similar. And given our proclivities, I'd expect we'd give Vital Systems' management a special login for kclug.org that allows them to flag that night's meeting as cancelled due to weather, terrorist threat, etc. without having to locate whoever has the keys to the Executive Washroom. Definitely something to think about.
I have no problem driving in this weather
*Forecast: h* ttp://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?CityName=Kansas+City&state=MO&site=EAX&textField1= 39.1223&textField2=-94.552&e=0
*Tonight: *Periods of freezing rain before midnight. Low around 20. North wind between 11 and 15 mph, with gusts as high as 18 mph. Chance of precipitation is 80%. New ice accumulation of around a 0.1 of an inch possible.
On Dec 11, 2007 9:56 AM, Phil Thayer phil.thayer@vitalsite.com wrote:
I am really concerned about trying to have this meeting tonight here at our office. I don't think it is worth everyone risking themselves to try and come to a meeting that is not a regularly scheduled meeting. Since we cannot tell what will happen this afternoon I think it is just better all around to postpone the trial run meeting at Vital Support Systems to another day. Let me know what everyone thinks.
*From:* kclug-bounces@kclug.org [mailto:kclug-bounces@kclug.org] *On Behalf Of *Phil Thayer *Sent:* Monday, December 10, 2007 9:07 AM *To:* kclug@kclug.org *Subject:* RE: Setting common rules about weather cancels of KCLUG events.
I think the prudent thing to do is see what happens tonight and whether our office will even be open tomorrow. If it is and I am able to get to work then I see no reason why we cannot have our meeting in the evening. However, if the office is closed or I am not able to get to work then I think since it is a trial run meeting we should call it off. I will send an email out as soon as I know something tomorrow and let people know. I will send it to the email list and post it on the Forum. That should cover everyone.
On Dec 9, 2007 3:34 PM, Jonathan Hutchins hutchins@tarcanfel.org wrote:
If the facility in question is closed, qed no meeting. If it's open and your foul-weather driving skills are up to it, who ever makes it to the meeting is the meeting.
Exactly. The only time we've ever cancelled a meeting was because the Library was closed.
This does raise an issue for impending test meeting. If our hosts be of the mind that the weather doth well and truly suck, how do we find out? The Library is the sort of institution that notifies the TV/radio stations, so they appear on lists of closings. Rather than fielding calls from a dozen or three geeks, I'd expect them to want to do something similar.
And given our proclivities, I'd expect we'd give Vital Systems' management a special login for kclug.org that allows them to flag that night's meeting as cancelled due to weather, terrorist threat, etc. without having to locate whoever has the keys to the Executive Washroom.
Definitely something to think about.
Kclug mailing list Kclug@kclug.org http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug
That's a call you have to make Phil, since you or someone from Vital have to be there for a meeting to occur. After that, everyone can decide for themselves if they're attending. We could do another test meeting under less shitty weather conditions regardless. Half the people here haven't gotten to work yet. Personally, I think the drive in was a bid mild. IMHO, until it starts sleeting/snowing/icing over again It's not a big deal. Even then, it's a quarter mile from one of the busiest highways in the midwest. Perhaps the largest adversity would be a traffic jam.
On Dec 11, 2007 9:56 AM, Phil Thayer phil.thayer@vitalsite.com wrote:
I am really concerned about trying to have this meeting tonight here at our office. I don't think it is worth everyone risking themselves to try and come to a meeting that is not a regularly scheduled meeting. Since we cannot tell what will happen this afternoon I think it is just better all around to postpone the trial run meeting at Vital Support Systems to another day. Let me know what everyone thinks.
From: kclug-bounces@kclug.org [mailto:kclug-bounces@kclug.org] On Behalf Of Phil Thayer Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 9:07 AM To: kclug@kclug.org Subject: RE: Setting common rules about weather cancels of KCLUG events.
I think the prudent thing to do is see what happens tonight and whether our office will even be open tomorrow. If it is and I am able to get to work then I see no reason why we cannot have our meeting in the evening. However, if the office is closed or I am not able to get to work then I think since it is a trial run meeting we should call it off. I will send an email out as soon as I know something tomorrow and let people know. I will send it to the email list and post it on the Forum. That should cover everyone.
On Dec 9, 2007 3:34 PM, Jonathan Hutchins hutchins@tarcanfel.org wrote:
If the facility in question is closed, qed no meeting. If it's open and
your
foul-weather driving skills are up to it, who ever makes it to the meeting
is
the meeting.
Exactly. The only time we've ever cancelled a meeting was because the Library was closed.
This does raise an issue for impending test meeting. If our hosts be of the mind that the weather doth well and truly suck, how do we find out? The Library is the sort of institution that notifies the TV/radio stations, so they appear on lists of closings. Rather than fielding calls from a dozen or three geeks, I'd expect them to want to do something similar.
And given our proclivities, I'd expect we'd give Vital Systems' management a special login for kclug.org that allows them to flag that night's meeting as cancelled due to weather, terrorist threat, etc. without having to locate whoever has the keys to the Executive Washroom.
Definitely something to think about.
Kclug mailing list Kclug@kclug.org http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug
Cancel or not, people are always going to find something to bitch about, so flip a coin, and go on with life. Just do the flipping soon so we know where we're driving after work.
On Dec 11, 2007 10:19 AM, Billy Crook billycrook@gmail.com wrote:
That's a call you have to make Phil, since you or someone from Vital have to be there for a meeting to occur. After that, everyone can decide for themselves if they're attending. We could do another test meeting under less shitty weather conditions regardless. Half the people here haven't gotten to work yet. Personally, I think the drive in was a bid mild. IMHO, until it starts sleeting/snowing/icing over again It's not a big deal. Even then, it's a quarter mile from one of the busiest highways in the midwest. Perhaps the largest adversity would be a traffic jam.
On Dec 11, 2007 9:56 AM, Phil Thayer phil.thayer@vitalsite.com wrote:
I am really concerned about trying to have this meeting tonight here at our office. I don't think it is worth everyone risking themselves to try and come to a meeting that is not a regularly scheduled meeting. Since we cannot tell what will happen this afternoon I think it is just better all around to postpone the trial run meeting at Vital Support Systems to another day. Let me know what everyone thinks.
From: kclug-bounces@kclug.org [mailto:kclug-bounces@kclug.org] On Behalf Of Phil Thayer Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 9:07 AM To: kclug@kclug.org Subject: RE: Setting common rules about weather cancels of KCLUG events.
I think the prudent thing to do is see what happens tonight and whether our office will even be open tomorrow. If it is and I am able to get to work then I see no reason why we cannot have our meeting in the evening. However, if the office is closed or I am not able to get to work then I think since it is a trial run meeting we should call it off. I will send an email out as soon as I know something tomorrow and let people know. I will send it to the email list and post it on the Forum. That should cover everyone.
On Dec 9, 2007 3:34 PM, Jonathan Hutchins hutchins@tarcanfel.org wrote:
If the facility in question is closed, qed no meeting. If it's open and
your
foul-weather driving skills are up to it, who ever makes it to the meeting
is
the meeting.
Exactly. The only time we've ever cancelled a meeting was because the Library was closed.
This does raise an issue for impending test meeting. If our hosts be of the mind that the weather doth well and truly suck, how do we find out? The Library is the sort of institution that notifies the TV/radio stations, so they appear on lists of closings. Rather than fielding calls from a dozen or three geeks, I'd expect them to want to do something similar.
And given our proclivities, I'd expect we'd give Vital Systems' management a special login for kclug.org that allows them to flag that night's meeting as cancelled due to weather, terrorist threat, etc. without having to locate whoever has the keys to the Executive Washroom.
Definitely something to think about.
Kclug mailing list Kclug@kclug.org http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug
Let's go ahead and postpone the trial meeting for another day. It's just not worth it. If we start having regularly scheduled meeting here that will be a different story but this is only a trial run and is not what I would consider critical. Let's come up with another date to do this trial run meeting.
Sorry for wimping out on you guys. :(
Phil
-----Original Message----- From: Billy Crook [mailto:billycrook@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 10:21 AM To: Phil Thayer Cc: kclug@kclug.org Subject: Re: Setting common rules about weather cancels of KCLUG events.
Cancel or not, people are always going to find something to bitch about, so flip a coin, and go on with life. Just do the flipping soon so we know where we're driving after work.
On Dec 11, 2007 10:19 AM, Billy Crook billycrook@gmail.com wrote:
That's a call you have to make Phil, since you or someone from Vital have to be there for a meeting to occur. After that, everyone can decide for themselves if they're attending. We could do
another test
meeting under less shitty weather conditions regardless. Half the people here haven't gotten to work yet. Personally, I
think the drive
in was a bid mild. IMHO, until it starts
sleeting/snowing/icing over
again It's not a big deal. Even then, it's a quarter mile
from one of
the busiest highways in the midwest. Perhaps the largest adversity would be a traffic jam.
On Dec 11, 2007 9:56 AM, Phil Thayer
phil.thayer@vitalsite.com wrote:
I am really concerned about trying to have this meeting
tonight here at our
office. I don't think it is worth everyone risking
themselves to try and
come to a meeting that is not a regularly scheduled
meeting. Since we
cannot tell what will happen this afternoon I think it is
just better all
around to postpone the trial run meeting at Vital Support
Systems to another
day. Let me know what everyone thinks.
From: kclug-bounces@kclug.org
[mailto:kclug-bounces@kclug.org] On Behalf Of
Phil Thayer Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 9:07 AM To: kclug@kclug.org Subject: RE: Setting common rules about weather cancels
of KCLUG events.
I think the prudent thing to do is see what happens
tonight and whether our
office will even be open tomorrow. If it is and I am
able to get to work
then I see no reason why we cannot have our meeting in
the evening.
However, if the office is closed or I am not able to get
to work then I
think since it is a trial run meeting we should call it
off. I will send an
email out as soon as I know something tomorrow and let
people know. I will
send it to the email list and post it on the Forum. That
should cover
everyone.
On Dec 9, 2007 3:34 PM, Jonathan Hutchins
hutchins@tarcanfel.org wrote:
If the facility in question is closed, qed no meeting.
If it's open and
your
foul-weather driving skills are up to it, who ever
makes it to the meeting
is
the meeting.
Exactly. The only time we've ever cancelled a meeting
was because the
Library was closed.
This does raise an issue for impending test meeting. If
our hosts be of the
mind that the weather doth well and truly suck, how do we
find out? The
Library is the sort of institution that notifies the
TV/radio stations, so
they appear on lists of closings. Rather than fielding
calls from a dozen
or three geeks, I'd expect them to want to do something similar.
And given our proclivities, I'd expect we'd give Vital
Systems' management a
special login for kclug.org that allows them to flag that
night's meeting as
cancelled due to weather, terrorist threat, etc. without
having to locate
whoever has the keys to the Executive Washroom.
Definitely something to think about.
Kclug mailing list Kclug@kclug.org http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug
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