Ended up downloading a few distro's/ toys. Does turn out hard drive is bad, rma time. As my last MS dos boot disk had gone bad (last made in Jan 99) I ended up using both lnx-bbc and Freedos. Trying to get away from Microsoft as much as possible, but those old single disc boot floppy are handy for all the dead but with warranty drives I have bought over the years.
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-----Original Message----- From: D. Joe
On Mon, Dec 13, 2004 at 10:42:38AM -0600, Brian Densmore wrote:
-----Original Message----- From: D. Joe
On Mon, Dec 13, 2004 at 08:48:20AM -0600, Brian Densmore wrote:
I've booted Knoppix on my laptop which only has 96MB RAM. I didn't touch any keys to do this. Now to be fair there is a swap partition on the drive and it may have seen this and used it. In fact the creators would be foolish not to look for and use it.
How foolish it is depends on what you use the disk for.
Yes, it is all relative, but based on the designed use/audience for Knoppix (aka, GUI desktop, Linux newbies, Windows users), it would be most desirable to boot using as much power and with as little interaction as possible. Hence I made my comment
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From the knoppix.org main page (English version):
"KNOPPIX can be used as a Linux demo, educational CD, rescue system, or adapted and used as a platform for commercial software product demos. It is not necessary to install anything on a hard disk."
So, I guess it depends on how one reads that list--as a set of design goals in order of decreasing importance to the designer, or as a simple enumeration of the kinds of uses one might anticipate.
I am not contesting the usefulness for Knoppix, but they do state Linux demo and educational CD *before* rescue system. Any Linux distro can be used as a rescue system, so stating that as a goal is redundant.
I suspect you've conflated the design goals of the disk with the uses to which you put it.
Perhaps, but we differ in our interpretations. Yours is perfectly valid and I consider mine so also. Opinions are after all opinions.
as I said before Knoppix isn't the ideal distro for troubleshooting broken systems. There are much better choices for such tasks.
How many different live CDs have you used to fix broken systems,
I have no need to fix broken systems. I have not had a broken system since switching to Linux 7 years ago (or more). [That is not to say that I haven't trashed my system by doing stupid experiments, but I have not had a system break. In these times tomsrtbt was all I needed. Or a new install of an upgraded version. I have yet to lose a single character of data from a Linux system. I have trashed: programs, libraries , rpm databases, and gentoo configurations. None of which, I suspect, could be fixed neatly by any tool.]
How suited KNOPPIX is depends on the specific task at hand:
True. I was merely stating that *if I were to want to fix a broken system* I wouldn't want to wait for X to boot, for KDE to launch, etc. I am, I guess of the old school that way. If you need to fix something, do it from the CLI. It's faster and you most likely will have more control. But then I don't do much in the way of fixing broken/borked Windows. I find it saves me having to digest massive quantities of Mylanta.
;')
IMHO, Brian Densmore _______________________________________________ Kclug mailing list Kclug@kclug.org http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug
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