kclug.net registration expires May 30.
We might want to enable contact information since other channels for people to contact what's left of the group are dying out.
I and someone from IRC are interested in meeting still. I'd need a ride, though.
A Google group is cheap.
Sent from my iPhone, please excuse any typos.
On May 21, 2023, at 09:16, Jonathan Hutchins hutchins@tarcanfel.org wrote:
kclug.net registration expires May 30.
We might want to enable contact information since other channels for people to contact what's left of the group are dying out.
-- Jonathan _______________________________________________ KCLUG mailing list KCLUG@kclug.org http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug
I didn't realize kclug.net had even been registered. I only knew kclug.org which doesn't expire until Mar 3, 2024. I don't know who the contact is for the domain(s).
Thanks,
On 2023-05-21 14:25, Hal Duston wrote:
I didn't realize kclug.net had even been registered. I only knew kclug.org which doesn't expire until Mar 3, 2024. I don't know who the contact is for the domain(s).
I know my own policy when I register a domain is to register .com, .net, and .org so that no-one can grab the same domain and spoof it.
I believe Billy Croan holds the current registrations. (Another good reason to make the contact info public.)
It is I.
And we have com, net and org, for the record.
I was setting up net or com the other day with cloudflare's free tier as a technology sandbox. I've always seen org as the official and net and com as a playground.
I convinced my employer, Unreal Servers datacenter to sort of commit to renewing .org despite being tight on cash. I'd rather like to see another date center tech than more domains....
Net Standard still hosts the VM and that's why those two companies appear on the page.
I'm not entirely sure I want to ask them to prop up net and com. For what?
I was probably going to just bite the bullet and pay for that myself in a week despite myself not having a whole lot of room in the budget.
Maybe some of the fine people in this thread, who have ideas on the future of KCLUG might also have some change to spare for domain registration. We can do it at the next meeting....
It's about $15 per domain per year. I put ten years on each in the beginning.
I get enough junk mail as it is, so if the group wants public contact information, I'll accept applications from volunteers who want their personal contact information put in there.
Reply on list with it. You might as well if you want it in public whois.
I made sure years ago that several of us have logins to namecheap. I check that we're all still alive every couple years. And each of us has the ability to look up the name on the reg -- and probably the last four of my credit card too which is fine. And we know each other. So I don't think there's realistically any risk of the domain getting lost.
There's a shared account that runs the domain and it is administratively delegated to at least three long-term kclug members.
If anyone's got a more egalitarian suggestion on how to set that up I'm all ears.
But I want to see volunteers putting actual work into refreshing the site before I worry about who's name is on the reg.
And so I challenge all of you, raise your hand if you want to donate some time to set up a modern CMS. Any CMS at all, import the gist of the current pages, make some new content. Commit to doing something every quarter for the next two years on the site?
You can even take credit for it. Put your name at the bottom of every page. Use the site as part of your web design portfolio.
Now sit back and watch as no one does.
....
Ask ourselves honestly, are we doing anything with that domain? Has the website materially changed in the last 10 years. 20 actually? There are actual (family) tombstones that have updated more frequently.
There's the mailing list. And thank you Jonathan and Chris for getting that working again. But look at the thread history. Has it been used for Linux Discussion in Kansas City lately? Why not? How many messages in the past month? How about the last 2 years?
I got it working a decade ago and I've immediately got used for unrelated left field nuttery.
Moving to Google groups? Moving *what* exactly? You can't import message history there I'll tell you that.
Sorry if this comes off a little nihilistic but, at what point are we no better than domain squatters?
What are we DOing with it?
How many decades is it going to take before the domains become the happy home of the new Kansas City Libations Underground, or Kansas City Librarians for Unified Government, or the Potassium Chloride Users Group?
There's no sense arguing what color paint is on the shed if the sheds not doing anything other than holding up the paint.
Now. Happy thoughts....
On Sun, May 21, 2023, 14:44 Jonathan Hutchins hutchins@tarcanfel.org wrote:
On 2023-05-21 14:25, Hal Duston wrote:
I didn't realize kclug.net had even been registered. I only knew kclug.org which doesn't expire until Mar 3, 2024. I don't know who the contact is for the domain(s).
I know my own policy when I register a domain is to register .com, .net, and .org so that no-one can grab the same domain and spoof it.
I believe Billy Croan holds the current registrations. (Another good reason to make the contact info public.)
-- Jonathan _______________________________________________ KCLUG mailing list KCLUG@kclug.org http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug
I can chip in for another year, but if we're not using it, we can let it go.
On Sun, May 21, 2023, at 17:41, Billy Croan wrote:
It is I.
And we have com, net and org, for the record.
I was setting up net or com the other day with cloudflare's free tier as a technology sandbox. I've always seen org as the official and net and com as a playground.
I convinced my employer, Unreal Servers datacenter to sort of commit to renewing .org despite being tight on cash. I'd rather like to see another date center tech than more domains....
Net Standard still hosts the VM and that's why those two companies appear on the page.
I'm not entirely sure I want to ask them to prop up net and com. For what?
I was probably going to just bite the bullet and pay for that myself in a week despite myself not having a whole lot of room in the budget.
Maybe some of the fine people in this thread, who have ideas on the future of KCLUG might also have some change to spare for domain registration. We can do it at the next meeting....
It's about $15 per domain per year. I put ten years on each in the beginning.
I get enough junk mail as it is, so if the group wants public contact information, I'll accept applications from volunteers who want their personal contact information put in there.
Reply on list with it. You might as well if you want it in public whois.
I made sure years ago that several of us have logins to namecheap. I check that we're all still alive every couple years. And each of us has the ability to look up the name on the reg -- and probably the last four of my credit card too which is fine. And we know each other. So I don't think there's realistically any risk of the domain getting lost.
There's a shared account that runs the domain and it is administratively delegated to at least three long-term kclug members.
If anyone's got a more egalitarian suggestion on how to set that up I'm all ears.
But I want to see volunteers putting actual work into refreshing the site before I worry about who's name is on the reg.
And so I challenge all of you, raise your hand if you want to donate some time to set up a modern CMS. Any CMS at all, import the gist of the current pages, make some new content. Commit to doing something every quarter for the next two years on the site?
You can even take credit for it. Put your name at the bottom of every page. Use the site as part of your web design portfolio.
Now sit back and watch as no one does.
....
Ask ourselves honestly, are we doing anything with that domain? Has the website materially changed in the last 10 years. 20 actually? There are actual (family) tombstones that have updated more frequently.
There's the mailing list. And thank you Jonathan and Chris for getting that working again. But look at the thread history. Has it been used for Linux Discussion in Kansas City lately? Why not? How many messages in the past month? How about the last 2 years?
I got it working a decade ago and I've immediately got used for unrelated left field nuttery.
Moving to Google groups? Moving *what* exactly? You can't import message history there I'll tell you that.
Sorry if this comes off a little nihilistic but, at what point are we no better than domain squatters?
What are we DOing with it?
How many decades is it going to take before the domains become the happy home of the new Kansas City Libations Underground, or Kansas City Librarians for Unified Government, or the Potassium Chloride Users Group?
There's no sense arguing what color paint is on the shed if the sheds not doing anything other than holding up the paint.
Now. Happy thoughts....
On Sun, May 21, 2023, 14:44 Jonathan Hutchins hutchins@tarcanfel.org wrote:
On 2023-05-21 14:25, Hal Duston wrote:
I didn't realize kclug.net had even been registered. I only knew kclug.org which doesn't expire until Mar 3, 2024. I don't know who the contact is for the domain(s).
I know my own policy when I register a domain is to register .com, .net, and .org so that no-one can grab the same domain and spoof it.
I believe Billy Croan holds the current registrations. (Another good reason to make the contact info public.)
-- Jonathan _______________________________________________ KCLUG mailing list KCLUG@kclug.org http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug
KCLUG mailing list KCLUG@kclug.org http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug
I've renewed the .net registration (didn't realize I had that level of access.
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