--- Arthur Pemberton pemboa@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 1:38 PM, Phil Thayer phil.thayer@vitalsite.com wrote:
Ubuntu sucks balls!!! discuss this instead please.
Really? How about this.
http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2006/03/ubuntu-probably-best-linux.html
It was done by LinuxQuestions.org and they surveyed 2500 users.
Well aside from the fact that they chose Gnome (eww) like Redhat/Fedora. I think Ubuntu is actually a
very
polished distro.
Well, considering that the other major alternative is KDE, which looks entirely too much like Windows, I think that a sigh of relief could easily replace that "eww".
My only significant issue with Ubuntu as a whole is that (I am learning about this, and I am subject to correction) they are quite selfish in terms of their development. While most of the fedora streams work on projects upstream, Ubuntu does most of their work downstream so that only Ubuntu people immediately benefit from work they do, leaving it for individual projets to port any changes.
Fedora on the other hand a pretty strict policy of sticking with upstream, applying as few downstream patches as possible. In this way, everyone benefits from a fix. I am sure there are exceptions to this of course. So this may be all good and well for Ubuntu users, but again it's pretty selfish.
I agree its selfish, but OTOH it is a policy which focuses all of Canonical's resources on the end user, which is quite likely why Ubuntu is so popular among end users.
Fedora's policy, while still quite a lot better than Microsoft's policy of "nope, I don't see that BSOD right in front of my eyes, nope, nope, nope <sticks fingers in ears> Lalalalalalalalalalala", still means that the end user might have to wait a bit longer while Fedora works on some upstream project with limited benefit to end users. And if someone trying Linux for the first time is reminded of Microsoft's "End Users Are Evil And Should Be Punished" policy, then they go back to Microsoft because its easier than waiting for Fedora coders to finish up with some new project they're doing for a Gentoo-created application.
Fedora can assume a big chunk of their users are at least shell script coders. Ubuntu has focused almost entirely on non-technical end users, so they have to have policies which benefit their non-technical end users in the quickest way possible. Spending time on outside projects is laudable, but only when you're fairly certain that your end users are getting what they need.
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