--- On Tue, 7/8/08, Jeffrey Watts jeffrey.w.watts@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 7:24 AM, Leo Mauler webgiant@yahoo.com wrote:
I'm just pointing out that it is a better way for Joe Average to download binaries than bittorrent, for lots of reasons all beneficial to Joe Average, be he the uploader or the downloader.
And I'm pointing out that it's wasteful, and poorly designed for today's modern 24/7 Internet.
Only from the perspective of ISPs. From the end user perspective it frequently works a lot better than the alternatives (such as bittorrent).
I don't care if it's more useful for you, it's not good for the ISPs.
Depending on the definition of "not good". If you lose clients because you don't have a news server, then having one is good.
You seem to forget that this stuff costs money, and a service has to be good for both the servers as well as the clients. Netnews is not,
Not good for the ISPs, great for the clients.
and that's why it's slowly going away. This is a good thing.
Only if the ISPs don't hemorrhage users away to ISPs with news servers.
There's a difference between supporting something
and just admiring its technological advantages to the end user. I support NetNews' text-only groups, but I merely admire the system of binary distribution through NetNews. I'd still want text-only NetNews to stick around, and if the price is binary NetNews vanishing, then so be it, despite its technological advantages to end users in the sharing of binary files.
You've obviously never run a production INN server. There is NOTHING admirable about how it works.
There's plenty admirable from the end user side of things, regardless of what you've seen on the server end.
Amiga technology made really great computers, but IBM PC technology ended up working better for me. I can admire Amiga without desiring that it return and replace something I really do want.
Okay, let's use your analogy. What you're asking for is like asking Time Warner Cable to _support Amigas_.
Considering, to extend your analogy, that TWC had been "supporting Amigas" right up until a few days ago, this analogy is somewhat silly given what you were trying to say with it.
Regardless, I'm going to call "Hitler" on this one. It's pretty clear this won't go anywhere, and I doubt everyone else wants to listen to it much more.
Godwin's Law doesn't state when a discussion ends, or even who wins. Its just the percentage chance that "Hitler" will get mentioned in a discussion, directly proportional to the length of the discussion. People always assume it means something it never meant.