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NUI Kansas City lunch meeting - WED. May 21st, 12n-1:30pm
by Alex Monteiro 14 May '08

14 May '08

As usual, KCLUG members are invited to our Novell User Group meeting. =========================================== All- Please join us for another NUI Kansas City lunch meeting. We hope you can make it! When: Wednesday, May 21st - 12:00-1:30pm. Where: Metropolitan Community College Facility Services Building - 1601 Prospect Ave. Kansas City, MO. 64127 Why: NUI Kansas City meeting RSVP: alexm(a)kiscc.com - we need a headcount for lunch. Agenda: * Technical presentation on differences between Netware & Linux, management of OES2 Linux with remote manager, iManager, File & Print, and Migration experiences (By Josh Bergland from Armed Forces Banks). * Discussion on vendor sponsorship for June and August meetings. * Summer Event - will NUI-KC have one? * Roundtable Thanks! Alex -- Alex Monteiro Business Development Manager KIS Computer Center - Kansas City o. 816-373-9900 (vmail ext. 7554) f. 816-373-9912 m. 650-279-1909 www.kiscc.com - alexm(a)kiscc.com

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UNIX notes- or how the ancestry of Linux came to be.
by Oren Beck 14 May '08

14 May '08

http://cm.bell-labs.com/who/dmr/notes.html -- Oren Beck 816.729.3645

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DSL link aggregation?
by Greg Brooks 11 May '08

11 May '08

Anyone successfully used link aggregation to combine two ADSL lines for greater outbound bandwidth? Because it's asymmetrical bandwidth, I'm fine for inbound speed. but I need to regularly move large files to FTP, and it's becoming an issue. So, if I'm moving data from a single user (me) to a single point (an FTP site), does link aggregation double my bandwidth? I understand how it would work in multi-users-to-the-net environments, but can't quite get how (or if) it would work in this scenario. I really don't want to pay the $1025/mo for a T1 line to the house, but it's my only other option. Any help much appreciated. Thanks, Greg

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RE: DSL link aggregation?
by Jonathan Hutchins 07 May '08

07 May '08

On Wed, May 7, 2008 11:10, James Nelson wrote: > Multiple modems work because the ISP can simply set a bonding option in > radius. One would think so, but we had connections through two different ISP's and Windows was able to "bond" them together into a single pipe for FTP. We were very surprised when we tried it and it just took off. > DSL is different and requires special modems at both ends of the > connection. Wouldn't surprise me if that were true, but also wouldn't surprise me if there were a software-workaround if you were running pppOe, just because I've seen it work with ppp before. Still, I would speculate (as I chide others for doing) that the shared-bandwidth nature of DSL would probably make this less useful than discrete phone line ppp bonding.

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Fwd: DSL link aggregation?
by James R. Sissel 07 May '08

07 May '08

Take the file and reverse it so the last bit is the first and the first bit is the last. Then your DSL will think it is downloading the file when you upload it and you'll get faster speed. ;) >Because it's asymmetrical bandwidth, I'm fine for inbound speed. but I need >to regularly move large files to FTP, and it's becoming an issue.

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Giving away / Selling old stuff
by Jeffrey Watts 01 May '08

01 May '08

A lot of stuff moved quickly, but I still have about half of it left. Here's what I still have. Sorry to impose again on the list. Jeffrey. 785 dash 550 dash 5689 > STUFF I'M ASKING MONEY FOR > > --- PC systems --- > * Dual PentiumII 300mHz SMP system, Tyan Thunder 2 S1696D motherboard, > Adaptec PCI SCSI card, Trident ISA video card, has memory but not sure > how much, SCSI CDROM, two internal PATA hard drives (one is a WD, > other is a Seagate I think). This was my server for a long time, was > a really sweet system back when dinosaurs ruled the earth. Floppy > drive, midtower case with 235W PS. $15 > > --- Sun Microsystems --- > * Sun SPARCclassic $10 > * Sun SPARCstation IPX $10 > * Sun SPARCstation IPX $10 > * Sun SPARCstation 5 $20 (with free Sun oddball keyboard) > * Sun model 411 external hard drive enclosure, 50pin HD scsi > interface, has ST31200N 1.2gb Seagate hard drive inside. $10 > (I believe all of the systems above can run Linux without problems) > > --- Silicon Graphics, Inc --- > * Indy Workstation $25 > * Indy Workstation $25 > * Indy Workstation $25 > * Indy Workstation $25 > * Two SGI serial mice, two SGI keyboards (normal PC layout), one > Indycam - free to the first people to buy Indys. > (The Indys can run Linux, but I don't believe they can run X) > > --- Workstation monitors --- > * SGI labeled grey 17" Sony Trinitron monitor. This uses the RGB > interface that the Indys and Suns use. Very nice CRT, Trinitrons > rule. Matches the Indys. $15 > * Unmarked beige 17" Sony Trinitron monitor. This uses the RGB > interface that the Indys and Suns use. See above about ruling. > Neutral in color, matches the Suns. $15 > > --- SCSI --- > * Buslogic BT-958 SCSI-3 internal PCI adapter. Fully supported Linux > back before it was cool to do so, not like those Adaptec a-holes. > SCSI-3 and SCSI-2 internal jacks, 68-pin external. $5 > > > FREE STUFF BELOW > > --- Optical Drives --- > * Acer 50x CDROM > * Sony CDU701 CDROM > * Toshiba TXM3501E1 EXTERNAL SCSI CDROM. Uses cartridges, Centronics > interface. > > --- Modems --- > * Actiontec 56k PCI Call Waiting modem (Linux fully supported, not a winmodem) > * US Robotics 128k ISDN modem - also does 56k - EXTERNAL, serial > interface. Comes with all cables and power supply. Really slick > modem, fully works under Linux, as it's external and speaks AT. > > --- Speakers --- > * Altec Lansing 4:1 speaker system (left, right, 2 satellite, subwoofer). > > --- Networking --- > * 8-port 10baseT hub (not switch, hub) with power supply > * 3Com EtherLink III 3C509-TPO ISA 10baseT networking card. Very nice > ISA networking card. > * 3Com EtherLink III 3C509-TPO ISA 10baseT networking card. Very nice > ISA networking card. > > --- Graphics --- > * Matrox Mystique PCI graphics adapter > * Cirrus Logic GD5422 ISA graphics adapter. Great for old systems > where you need a console, but not X. > > --- Oddball --- > * CueCat barcode reader, apparently has been hacked to work under Linux. -- "He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself." -- Thomas Paine -- "He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself." -- Thomas Paine

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Giving away / Selling old stuff
by Jeffrey Watts 29 Apr '08

29 Apr '08

I'm cleaning out my geek closet, and I need to get rid of a bunch of stuff that's been sitting around and needs a better home than mine. All of this stuff was working when I last used it, and it has been carefully packed away. I keep my toys in good shape, though it's possible Father Time might have claimed a victim or two. I'm giving away a lot of the stuff, but the nicer stuff I'm asking money for. I know it might be a bit poor etiquette to use this list for this, but I'd much rather give away / sell these to a local geek than sell them over eBay or give them to a charity where they might end up in a landfill. Please forgive me if I offend. CONDITIONS: Please reply off-list!!!! When it comes to the free stuff, if you come to get it, you gotta take it. No window shoppers please. I can donate a lot of this stuff to a charity for a small amount of tax writeoff, but I'd rather a geek get it and use it, So please don't waste my time by coming and "looking". I also expect people to be responsible about how they dispose of this stuff, if they do. So if you pick up this stuff and decide you don't want it, please don't throw it in the garbage. Take it to one of the many public electronics disposal places around. They're often advertised. Post to this list if you need help finding one. When it comes to the paid stuff, it's as-is. If it doesn't work or you change your mind, I'll feel bad but please don't come to me for a refund (unless I've accidentally misrepresented something of course) as I'm interested in moving this stuff out of my house and I'm not looking for complications. I'm not doing this as a business, I just need to get some money for that stuff as I might actually be able to make a dime on it (and they money helps me with the pain of parting with my treasure). It's not like it's expensive anyway. :) Note: If you happen to be a charity and a geek, and will put the stuff to good use, let me know and we can work something out. After all, I'm selling it in lieu of donating to a charity - the main problem with which is that the stuff you donate rarely gets appreciated and sometimes ends up in a dumpster. If you have some more detailed questions, I'll try my best to answer them. But don't ask me to boot up systems or dig around inside of them too much. That again violates my "I want to get this stuff out of my house quickly" clause. I will be offering this stuff for about a week or so, then off it goes, so act quickly, and pick up anything you want quickly. I won't hold onto anything for long. If you want to buy a bunch of the stuff and want a discount, make me an offer. See above comments about wanting to move this stuff quickly. STUFF I'M ASKING MONEY FOR --- PC systems --- * AMD Athlon XP 1600+ CPU with big heatsink/fan, Epox 8KHA+ motherboard, 3COM 3C905 ethernet, 13.6gb Seagate 136BA PATA HDD, GeForce3 64mb AGP card, has memory, but don't remember how much, 3.5" floppy, nice midtower case with 300W PS. $25 * Dual PentiumII 300mHz SMP system, Tyan Thunder 2 S1696D motherboard, Adaptec PCI SCSI card, Trident ISA video card, has memory but not sure how much, SCSI CDROM, two internal PATA hard drives (one is a WD, other is a Seagate I think). This was my server for a long time, was a really sweet system back when dinosaurs ruled the earth. Floppy drive, midtower case with 235W PS. $15 * AMD Athlon Thunderbird CPU, Abit motherboard, 3COM 3C905 Ethernet, Soundblaster Live! PCI sound card, 3dfx Voodoo3 graphics card, 2 PATA hard drives, floppy, 32x CDRW, DVDROM, memory (but again don't know exactly how much), midtower case with 300W PS. $15 --- Sun Microsystems --- * Sun SPARCclassic $10 * Sun SPARCstation IPX $10 * Sun SPARCstation IPX $10 * Sun SPARCstation 5 $20 (with free Sun oddball keyboard) * Sun model 411 external hard drive enclosure, 50pin HD scsi interface, has ST31200N 1.2gb Seagate hard drive inside. $10 (I believe all of the systems above can run Linux without problems) --- Silicon Graphics, Inc --- * Indy Workstation $25 * Indy Workstation $25 * Indy Workstation $25 * Indy Workstation $25 * Two SGI serial mice, two SGI keyboards (normal PC layout), one Indycam - free to the first people to buy Indys. (The Indys can run Linux, but I don't believe they can run X) --- Workstation monitors --- * SGI labeled grey 17" Sony Trinitron monitor. This uses the RGB interface that the Indys and Suns use. Very nice CRT, Trinitrons rule. Matches the Indys. $15 * Unmarked beige 17" Sony Trinitron monitor. This uses the RGB interface that the Indys and Suns use. See above about ruling. Neutral in color, matches the Suns. $15 --- SCSI --- * Buslogic BT-958 SCSI-3 internal PCI adapter. Fully supported Linux back before it was cool to do so, not like those Adaptec a-holes. SCSI-3 and SCSI-2 internal jacks, 68-pin external. $5 FREE STUFF BELOW --- Optical Drives --- * Acer 50x CDROM * Sony CRX140E CDR/RW * Sony CDU701 CDROM * Toshiba TXM3501E1 EXTERNAL SCSI CDROM. Uses cartridges, Centronics interface. --- Modems --- * Actiontec 56k PCI Call Waiting modem (Linux fully supported, not a winmodem) * US Robotics 128k ISDN modem - also does 56k - EXTERNAL, serial interface. Comes with all cables and power supply. Really slick modem, fully works under Linux, as it's external and speaks AT. --- Monitors --- * ADI 17" PC monitor. Really nice display. --- Speakers --- * Altec Lansing 4:1 speaker system (left, right, 2 satellite, subwoofer). --- Keyboards --- * Gateway 2000 standard 104 key US keyboard. PS/2 interface. Good condition. * Microsoft Natural Keyboard. Split keyboard, hump in the middle. PS/2. Worn, but works well. * Logitech Cordless Freedom Pro - keyboard + mouse, both wireless, both work, just worn. * Logitech Cordless Freedom Pro - keyboard + mouse, both wireless, both work, just worn. --- Networking --- * 8-port 10baseT hub (not switch, hub) with power supply * 3Com EtherLink III 3C509-TPO ISA 10baseT networking card. Very nice ISA networking card. * 3Com EtherLink III 3C509-TPO ISA 10baseT networking card. Very nice ISA networking card. * Motorola Surfboard SB4100 DOCSIS cable modem --- Graphics --- * Matrox Mystique PCI graphics adapter * Cirrus Logic GD5422 ISA graphics adapter. Great for old systems where you need a console, but not X. * ASUS AGP-V7700 GeForce2 GTS AGP card --- Oddball --- * CueCat barcode reader, apparently has been hacked to work under Linux. Jeffrey. -- "He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself." -- Thomas Paine

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The dominant OS on these lightweights is Linux!
by Oren Beck 29 Apr '08

29 Apr '08

http://www.liliputing.com/2008/04/over-past-six-months-or-so-asus-everex_24… -- Oren Beck 816.729.3645

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old laptops - I need several for grandchildren-no joke.
by Oren Beck 29 Apr '08

29 Apr '08

Long story snipped to point- My stepdaughter is beginning what will be a very nasty divorce. thus I need to keep my 2 grandkids occupied. Here's the issue. This has a near zero budget- A few bucks here ant there can be pried loose if needed. The goal besides keeping the kids occupied is to show them and all in their external lives that Linux CAN be a primary Operating System for grade school children. Any donations- offers of cheap stuff- or even practical advice will be appreciated. There is an option of payment for hardware/time helping set this up by me giving you free camping within reason.And yes- that means families too! Details further as needed. Contact me off list as needed. -- Oren Beck 816.729.3645

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A work around that may have wider potential -Video card loopback using paper clips for setup
by Oren Beck 29 Apr '08

29 Apr '08

The story seems to be centered on OSX for the EEE. Yet the implications are wider. This trick may lead to video and devices we thought not Linux usable being rethought. http://www.hackaday.com/2008/04/26/ghost-external-vga-display-hack/ Or- one could hack the plug end from a vga cable leaving enough wire to make the loopback plug ? -- Oren Beck 816.729.3645

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