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13 Dec '06

I have a client that has a very old 486 server running SCO UNIX 3.2. My job is to get the data off of this machine and get it on to a Linux machine. The problem here is that the 486 is ISA bus only. It does not have an IDE bus, main system HDD is SCSI (328MB). No network option, tape backup drive does not work either. I want to add a second SCSI disk to the system formatted in DOS FAT16, copy the data over to this drive, and then copy the data back on to the new Linux server. I am having no joy getting this SCO 3.2 system to mount the drive. I don't know how. I mean I know how to mount drives in Linux and AIX but I fail to get this done in SCO. Could anyone please advise me on the steps needed to get this drive mounted in SCO? -- RtX... Ty Unes - Overland Park, Ks. riverty(a)gmail.com

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RE: Linux / Sco Stuff.
by Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO 11 Dec '06

11 Dec '06

Well good luck in the fight to remove old hardware and more specifically SCO. Yet more reason that SCO blows goats and why you can't get too far behind the times w/ a proprietary OS. I bet if you contacted SCO, they'd sell you some pkg to give full DOS support, a tool to format a drive to work in SCO, or even network support. The key is they'd sell you something to get your data back off their incompatible old piece of crap OS. Good luck with Debian and may your nightmares be few. Many server apps I'm seeing lately have support for at least RedHat, so there is hope. >-----Original Message----- >From: On Behalf Of RtX >Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 11:43 AM > >Job is done. Success! Yes, SCO UNIX has not kicked my ass yet, >even on an old 486! > >Before I tell how I want to thank everyone for their help and support. >You all are great! > >I located a working 50-pin SCSI 1.2 GB tape drive with tape, >and simply made a tar backup with this drive, added the drive >and SCSI card to the new server and untarred from backup. >Works like buttuh! I did not have this drive before and didn't >know I would have it when I started the thread. I was hoping >to get the same thing done >(basically) by using a SCSI HDD. Still no joy on that front. I >found out that SCO 3.2 does not have full DOS file system >support (only for >floppies) and this is why I had so much trouble with the HDD. > >BTW - The software in question here is "Keypoint" software. >It's mainly for the trucking industry but maybe more. They are >still pushing SCO UNIX for their products. I asked about a >Linux port for my clients as I wanted to get them off of SCO >and on to something a little more flexible. They have made it >work on Linux before. >Specifically RedHat Enterprise Server. I'm doing it in Debian. >Wish me luck... > >RtX... > >Ty Unes - Overland Park, Ks.

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RE: Linux / Sco Stuff.
by Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO 10 Dec '06

10 Dec '06

I have NEVER seen a 486 with USB ports. I imagine if you had one with a PCI port, you could add a USB PCI Card. That adapter you sent a link to is for what looks like 68-pin SCSI, and his drive is probably DB25 or 50-pin or lord knows what else at that age. It's a 328MB SCSI drive. I don't know if I've even seen a SCSI drive at less than 1 or 2 GB and still knew what it was. We're talking ancient freakin history here. A&E dug up a mate to this baby next to the Sphinx. _____ From: Oren Beck Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 1:44 PM To: Monty J. Harder Cc: Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO; Subject: Re: Linux / SCO Stuff. On 12/8/06, Monty J. Harder <> wrote: "no network option" in SCO doesn't mean "no NIC", it means that it's the Host version of SCO, rather than Enterprise. It has no TCP/IP stack. No ifconfig. <NetNazi>NO NETWORK FOR YOU!</NetNazi> On 12/8/06, Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO < <mailto:brian.kelsay@kcc.usda.gov> > wrote: I may have an old ISA network card in my basement, or Oren has it from when he took all my extra old cards. You'd have to get drivers and put on floppy, but that would be another answer. I think I probably have a few 3Com ISA cards come to think of it. 3C509-TPO Great cards. >>have an IDE bus, main system HDD is SCSI (328MB). No network option, A possible "Last resort first" fix seems possible with this. http://www.usbgear.com/USB-TO-SCSI.html Under $75 delivered or better prices from Ebay or local shops- but it SHOULD work. And after the "project " is do n e, either keep it in your toolset or use it to wipe and format ALL the stack of SCSI drives in your collection- possibly even using them for "Offsite Data Buckets" of data to be safe deposit boxed etc. Oren

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internal temperature sensor?
by David Nicol 09 Dec '06

09 Dec '06

Message from syslogd@justice at Fri Dec 8 15:29:07 2006 ... justice kernel: CPU0: Temperature above threshold when I was fiddling with the BIOS of my fancy new 1U server, I set "fan always on" to "turn fan on when exceeding temperature" but apparently the temperature there is not low enough to blow the heat out when I do something CPU-intensive (such as run my .sig for twenty minutes) Who knows how to find out what the current temperature is? Is it in /proc/misc or somewhere? This new-fangled magic is beyond me; in my days when the computers overheated, they simply caught fire and halted. -- perl -le'1while(1x++$_)=~/^(11+)\1+$/||print'

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RE: Linux / Sco Stuff.
by Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO 08 Dec '06

08 Dec '06

I may have an old ISA network card in my basement, or Oren has it from when he took all my extra old cards. You'd have to get drivers and put on floppy, but that would be another answer. I think I probably have a few 3Com ISA cards come to think of it. 3C509-TPO Great cards. >-----Original Message----- >From: On Behalf Of Zscoundrel >Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 7:49 AM > >No network option??? What kind of server has no network connection? >Even an old BBS would have dial in capabilities. > >Stick an Ethernet card in it and use FTP. If there is only >328mb total, the usable data can't take very long to transfer. > >RtX wrote: > >>I have a client that has a very old 486 server running SCO UNIX 3.2. >>My job is to get the data off of this machine and get it on >to a Linux >>machine. The problem here is that the 486 is ISA bus only. It >does not >>have an IDE bus, main system HDD is SCSI (328MB). No network option, >>tape backup drive does not work either. I want to add a second SCSI >>disk to the system formatted in DOS FAT16, copy the data over to this >>drive, and then copy the data back on to the new Linux server. I am >>having no joy getting this SCO 3.2 system to mount the drive. I don't >>know how. I mean I know how to mount drives in Linux and AIX >but I fail >>to get this done in SCO. Could anyone please advise me on the steps >>needed to get this drive mounted in SCO? >> >> >>

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OT Looking for Contract Work
by Dale Beams 07 Dec '06

07 Dec '06

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Free Old Laptop
by Jim Herrmann 06 Dec '06

06 Dec '06

I have an old IBM Thinkpad 365XD that I will give to anyone that wants it. I will bring it to the meeting tomorrow night. You could make a picture frame out of it: http://www.agol.dk/elgaard/picframe.html First come first serve. See you tomorrow. Peace, Jim Herrmann

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Democracy TV
by lowell 04 Dec '06

04 Dec '06

Folks, Saw this on /. and wondered if anybody had tried it yet? Also wondered if I stood a chance of getting it to work on my Thinkpad T20 running last version of Redhat (9.0)? Would getting the tarball and building it on the machine work any better than stepping into rpm hell with the binary?

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Anyone have a available Socket 478 mobo?
by Jon Pruente 04 Dec '06

04 Dec '06

I've got a bare Celeron 1.8GHz CPU, and am likely to upgrade the DDR RAM in my Mac mini soon so I'd end up with a 512MB PC3200 DIMM too. So, I'll have a CPU and spare RAM but I don't, however, have a mobo that would take them. Does anyone have something fitting available? I've got a a Slot 1 P3 850 system as my main Linux machine, so even this old chip would be an upgrade.

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RE: Problems with video conversion temp files
by Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO 01 Dec '06

01 Dec '06

http://applications.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/11/13/2129256 Easy video creation using only FOSS software Make sure to read through the comments. >-----Original Message----- >From: Leo Mauler >Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 4:45 PM > >I've been looking into doing some video editing in Linux. I >have a video a friend of mine in Colorado took of our wedding. > He digitized it and sent it to me awhile back (2000), before >he had a DVD burner, so its about two hours of video on two CDs. > >So I thought I'd see if I could do what needed to be done to >make a DVD out of it to pass on to the relatives. My best >man's wedding toast is on it and he was rather good, so I also >wanted to strip off the audio as its own file. > >I wanted to load the first hour of video into Kino (Kino was >on the Debian package repository), so I told Kino to import >the video (about 650MB AVI). About an hour later it had >filled up the 8GB left in /home and wanted more. What I >didn't read in the documentation is that Kino only works with >DV files which are uncompressed audio and uncompressed video, >and "importing" means it will convert compressed audio/video >files into uncompressed DV files. > >So I stopped Kino, and deleted the temp file it had created. >The problem is that the temp file didn't go away. I did "ls >-lahR | less" and checked all the file sizes, and nothing was >7.9GB or anywhere near that size. Processes attached to my >account were crashing all over the place, since they couldn't >save their config files. > >Eventually I had to reboot and that fixed the problem, but I >wanted to know if anyone knew of a solution that didn't >require rebooting? > >Incidentally, what does work for home video editing (and is >also on the standard Debian package >repository) is: Avidemux (you might see it listed as >Avidemux2). If any of you have used VirtualDub in Windows, >Avidemux is VirtualDub, except I found Avidemux a little >easier to figure out. Avidemux is available for Windows too. >Converts, edits, strips out audio as its own file, all the >stuff a home user needs.

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