KCLUG May 2011

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most commonly used Linux version?
by Joe Cho 03 Jun '11

03 Jun '11

Hi, I would like to install a Linux to my desktop. Could you advise a most commonly used Linux version? for example: Redhat, Debian, etc. and where can I download? Thanks in advance. -Joe -- Joe Cho ksjoecho(a)gmail.com

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Re: most commonly used Linux version?
by thomas＠redhat.com 03 Jun '11

03 Jun '11

Again, these stats are suspect simply because they are from a relatively niche sample. No argument Ubuntu does great in non-paid space, but that ain't a sustainable business model. And in enterprise compute, I simply never hear of Ubuntu. So if I were to do a quick survey of that niche space it'd look awful for Canonical. There are three kinds of lies. Lies, damned lies, and statistics. "jldugger(a)gmail.com" <jldugger(a)gmail.com> wrote: Meanwhile, on Linode[1]... 48% Ubuntu 24% Debian 16% CentOS 4.3% Fedora 3.1% Gentoo Now granted, #1 in nonpaying customers is kind of a tough spot to be in. And the RHEL pricing model doesn't lend itself to The Cloud. I imagine Canonical has a paid agreement to cater their OS to EC2, but we can't read their 10-K's so we'll never know. Justin [1] http://www.linode.com/about/ On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 11:35 PM, thomas(a)redhat.com <thomas(a)redhat.com> wrote: > The reason I said "depending on which report you read" is that "market share leadership" is such a nebulous term, it depends on how it's defined. Some reports I've seen say we have 85% of paid Linux revenue. Some reports say 55% of paid Linux server count. Still others say we're on 70% of all factory prepossessing of Linux. > > Frankly, I find all of these suspect for a slew of reasons from statistical accuracy to methodology to just plain common sense. > > Probably the closest thing to truth I can find - and even this is probably not the best yardstick - is revenue. Don't take my word for it, our 10K is public, as is Novell 's. > > Also Gartner and IDC have some decent data on things like server sales and OS sales. Go look at those. > > But the assertion that only managers and marketing types like RHEL, and real men like Debian is just absurd. What runs the NYSE? What does the FAA use to support the ~8000 planes in the air in US airspace every day? Hint: it ain't Debian. > > TC > > Jonathan Hutchins <hutchins(a)tarcanfel.org> wrote: > > On Monday 23 May 2011 04:17:54 pm thomas(a)redhat.com wrote: > >> We own between 65 and 85 percent of the Linux server market, depending >> on which report you read. Debian based distros are not really even a >> blip on the radar from a commercial standpoint. > > Based on number of licenses sold, or total revenue? > > IBM has a big share of the POS market, and their POS system is based on SuSE. > They don't count the licenses on a per-terminal basis as far as I know, so > their "market share" would be skewed too. ?I know of only one very small > specialty POS system based on RHEL. > _______________________________________________ > KCLUG mailing list > KCLUG(a)kclug.org > http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug > _______________________________________________ > KCLUG mailing list > KCLUG(a)kclug.org > http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug >

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Re: most commonly used Linux version?
by thomas＠redhat.com 24 May '11

24 May '11

The reason I said "depending on which report you read" is that "market share leadership" is such a nebulous term, it depends on how it's defined. Some reports I've seen say we have 85% of paid Linux revenue. Some reports say 55% of paid Linux server count. Still others say we're on 70% of all factory prepossessing of Linux. Frankly, I find all of these suspect for a slew of reasons from statistical accuracy to methodology to just plain common sense. Probably the closest thing to truth I can find - and even this is probably not the best yardstick - is revenue. Don't take my word for it, our 10K is public, as is Novell 's. Also Gartner and IDC have some decent data on things like server sales and OS sales. Go look at those. But the assertion that only managers and marketing types like RHEL, and real men like Debian is just absurd. What runs the NYSE? What does the FAA use to support the ~8000 planes in the air in US airspace every day? Hint: it ain't Debian. TC Jonathan Hutchins <hutchins(a)tarcanfel.org> wrote: On Monday 23 May 2011 04:17:54 pm thomas(a)redhat.com wrote: > We own between 65 and 85 percent of the Linux server market, depending > on which report you read. Debian based distros are not really even a > blip on the radar from a commercial standpoint. Based on number of licenses sold, or total revenue? IBM has a big share of the POS market, and their POS system is based on SuSE. They don't count the licenses on a per-terminal basis as far as I know, so their "market share" would be skewed too. I know of only one very small specialty POS system based on RHEL. _______________________________________________ KCLUG mailing list KCLUG(a)kclug.org http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug

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Puppy Linux as a Primary OS for daily use. It's been working for me
by Oren Beck 23 May '11

23 May '11

I've been very happy to discover that Puppy 5 has been a quite stable overall "Just works" daily use distro. Less so from trying HD installs on some hardware, but running from CD/DVD or Flashdrives seems to be a winner. Which seems nicely in keeping with my preferred mode of having the OS and Userdata on separate devices. Oh- there's a zone of having "some" archival stuff on the slack space of an OS device, but NEVER as the "only copy" of anything worth worrying about losing. That concept is incredibly NEAT to use easily due to how Puppy's Pmount utility displays drives on the desktop with a prominent green DOT to indicate a drive's mounted. Yeah- that's a small trivial seeming thing but it's an example of how Puppy's methods work for me. I keep a shoebox of older ~20- 250 gig drives around as archived buckets of "if I missed something" history and using the IDE>USB cable trick allows me to painlessly take a drive from the box-copy whatever is needed for a mule 'puter around here onto the drive and NOT worry about leaving space for an OS etc. Boring stuff like pictures of Catfish contests etc get set up as a slide show on a guest computer running Puppy from CD or an internal Flashdrive. For me personally, booting Puppy from a Flashdrive makes whatever 'puter I am sitting at closer to "Mine" than many other tricks I've used with "less" chance of leaving traces of even trivial data on whatever HD's are in the machine I'm using. Last I checked- writing to an UNMOUNTED drive's not a worry eh? More details going up on my blog..

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Hardware
by Jonathan Hutchins 23 May '11

23 May '11

So what level of hardware (and expenditure) do I really need to get smooth, full-screen, HD playback of flash video? (I've been chasing this since the 90's, and the answer has always been MOAR!)

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Gnome configuration question
by Haworth, Michael A. 10 May '11

10 May '11

OK, so I have a desktop and a laptop that are both running 64-bit Fedora 14. The desktop has three screens and is using Xinerama, the laptop only has one... I would really like to copy my gnome configurations from the desktop to the laptop - allowing me to (hopefully) have a seamless experience between the two machines. If possible, I would even like to copy the packages (and their configs) from one machine to another and then set up some way to sync them during the day... I'm not looking to make a major project out of doing this, just wanting to know if either part is feasible and if there are any (relatively) simple ways of going about it w/out totally borking one machine or the other. Thanks, Michael Haworth ________________________________ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email message and any attachments are for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain proprietary, confidential, trade secret or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited and may be a violation of law. If you are not the intended recipient or a person responsible for delivering this message to an intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message.

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Job Opening - Linux Systems Engineer
by Kyle Sheumaker 09 May '11

09 May '11

We're looking to fill a couple of System Engineer positions at Advanced Clustering Technologies. We are a local small business that focus on building high performance computer clusters to higher education, government, and large corporations. It's a full-time position with benefits (insurance, vacation, 401K with matching). Job requires a high-level of Linux skills, and interaction with customers, including some travel. You can check out the full details of the job (and company) at: http://www.advancedclustering.com/company-info/systems-engineer.html If interested please send me a resume. Thanks! Kyle Sheumaker Advanced Clustering phone: 913-643-0305 skype: ksheumaker email/xmpp: ksheumaker(a)advancedclustering.com

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by Oren Beck 02 May '11

02 May '11

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