KCLUG September 2008

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Xact USB skype phones. does anyone on list have experience with them. Possibily also integrating them with Asterisk?
by Oren Beck 15 Sep '08

15 Sep '08

There is a vast gap between assembling a few "this is what I did" posts from Google etc and being able to make them work. Examples are too many to count.. The desired result is- emulating POTS to the user. They pick up phone- get tone- dial- finish call and hang up. It just plain works. Details in progress- but one example would be perhaps setting up a "softphone" demo for ITEC. An unlimited calls per month Skype account is <$5 a month for the rest of the story. I do wonder in the real world if a seven port powered USB hub would handle a few such phones? -- Oren Beck 816.729.3645

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Re: Kclug Digest, Vol 50, Issue 24
by gary hildebrand 14 Sep '08

14 Sep '08

Looks like a rant about people whose computer skills are limited by poor little Billy Gates. I keep in mind that those who love Wndows have never used anything else; those who hate Wndows HAVE used something else. Some people think sounding off in colorful language will make them feel superior, and influence others into going along with their wants, needs and desires. They are usually mistaken. Gary Hildebrand St. Joseph, MO Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 21:53:01 -0500 > From: "Oren Beck" <orenbeck(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Typematic rate in livecd. > To: KCLUG <kclug(a)kclug.org> > > This is a query regarding what default settings should be for > typematic. Earlier tonight the kiosk public terminal at the campground > caused much Obscene Verbiage to be loudly spoken about Linux. The > reason proved to be a typematic default setting of 600ms delay and 25 > cps repeat. I myself felt that setting to be Obscenity Worthy upon > trying it. Perhaps this issue might underscore why public perceptions > become what they are? As in this case- the guest needing to check her > yahoo mail found the terminal repeat rate -Uh- described mostly in > anatomical improbabilities liberally frosted with excretions. I wish I > had an audio recording as the woman was rather direct in expressions. > ALL avoidable had the person responsible for such setting's default > numbers thought a bit. > > A demo disk by most probable reasoning WILL be seen by either the > overly critical or the painfully inexperienced. > > > > Thus handing out distros we have not checked for such issues may need > rethinking. > > So the "Expererience Zero" they have with Linux is a good one. As > opposed to my unhappy camper. > > Yes- assuredly we ALL should test a kiosk etc for such issues. I > however respectfully suggest we all at the mastering level consider > pre-master changes. Or at minimum feeding back to the responsible > project person info on the issue. > > Which feedback letter is being my next project. > > -- > Oren Beck > > 816.729.3645 > >

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Typematic rate in livecd.
by Oren Beck 14 Sep '08

14 Sep '08

This is a query regarding what default settings should be for typematic. Earlier tonight the kiosk public terminal at the campground caused much Obscene Verbiage to be loudly spoken about Linux. The reason proved to be a typematic default setting of 600ms delay and 25 cps repeat. I myself felt that setting to be Obscenity Worthy upon trying it. Perhaps this issue might underscore why public perceptions become what they are? As in this case- the guest needing to check her yahoo mail found the terminal repeat rate -Uh- described mostly in anatomical improbabilities liberally frosted with excretions. I wish I had an audio recording as the woman was rather direct in expressions. ALL avoidable had the person responsible for such setting's default numbers thought a bit. A demo disk by most probable reasoning WILL be seen by either the overly critical or the painfully inexperienced. Thus handing out distros we have not checked for such issues may need rethinking. So the "Expererience Zero" they have with Linux is a good one. As opposed to my unhappy camper. Yes- assuredly we ALL should test a kiosk etc for such issues. I however respectfully suggest we all at the mastering level consider pre-master changes. Or at minimum feeding back to the responsible project person info on the issue. Which feedback letter is being my next project. -- Oren Beck 816.729.3645

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Cook Up Tasty Custom Ubuntu Live CDs With UCK
by JDP 12 Sep '08

12 Sep '08

Sent to you by JDP via Google Reader: Cook Up Tasty Custom Ubuntu Live CDs With UCK via Linux Today on 9/10/08 Linux.com: "The Ubuntu Customization Kit, tastefully called UCK, lets you add your favorite applications into the distro. If you're not happy with the factory-installed Ubuntu apps, here's your chance to spin up your very own Ubuntu live CD without too much effort." Things you can do from here: - Subscribe to Linux Today using Google Reader - Get started using Google Reader to easily keep up with all your favorite sites

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Re: Flash alternatives
by Luke -Jr 11 Sep '08

11 Sep '08

On Wednesday 10 September 2008 13:40:22 you wrote: > Awesome! I didn't know FF supported it yet. Are you sure that FF isn't > launching a 3rd party app, like Luke suggested? If it truly is being > rendered by the browser and not a proprietary plugin (even if it IS MPlayer > :-P) then that's awesome. Monolithic browsers are stupid anyway. Konqueror uses a "plugin" for everything, including HTML. There is no reason to have a proprietary or embedded implementation of a codec in a web browser.

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Re: Flash alternatives
by Luke -Jr 10 Sep '08

10 Sep '08

On Wednesday 10 September 2008 13:47:51 Nathan Cerny wrote: > That's fine, but there's a distinct difference between loading a "plugin" > or module designed for the browser and loading a 3rd party app. The only real difference is that sometimes 3rd party apps use a different toolkit. But KDE's video players are themselves wrappers around 3rd party frameworks-- either Kaffeine (Xine-based) or KMPlayer (MPlayer-based). > I want to see support for streaming media just like browsers support images > now. Sure, the Mozilla team wrote their own image library from scratch, but I suspect most browsers use shared libraries for this. > I don't want a browser to have to load MPlayer, WMP, Quicktime, Flash, etc. > THAT is stupid IMO. Now you're contradicting yourself a bit... WMP is about the closest thing to a native browser plugin as you can get for Windows.

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Flash alternatives
by Sean Crago 10 Sep '08

10 Sep '08

The recent posts asking about Adobe reminded me of an issue I've been having for some time. The bundled reader in Mac OSX is nigh-infinitely faster (even on arcane 300mhz G3 processors) than anything I've ever seen for Windows and Linux. The only thing I've seen that comes close in terms of performance is the Windows shareware Foxit Reader. Evince et al have certainly made great strides in terms of speed, and it's certainly simpler and sucks less than Adobe's Reader, but it's still not nearly as fast, responsive, and easy to use as Apple's Preview. I still see "Loading...." far too often on an Athlon X2. Using Evince or the bundled PDF reader in Maemo, on an N800 with specs that really aren't all that different from the old Mac I used to have, I'm forced to waste so much time reading a PDF that I have to go all old-school and run pdf2html and read it with fbreader. Is there anything out there that's substantially faster than Evince? Thanks, Sean Crago

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Ubuntu 8.10 Alpha 5 now available
by Justin Dugger 10 Sep '08

10 Sep '08

I know a few people on the list were considering running the development version of Ubuntu to see if driver bugs were fixed. Now is a great time to grab the newly released alpha 5 and test, for both people who's hardware might be fixed and for people worried it might regress during development. Read more and get download it via: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/hardy/alpha5 Justin Dugger

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WARNING: DELETE THIS IMMEDIATELY! POLITICS and WEB STANDARDS
by David Nicol 10 Sep '08

10 Sep '08

http://www.idolhands.com/personal/obama-is-restful/

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Re: Adobe flash in Ubuntu 7.10
by Craig Aldinger 09 Sep '08

09 Sep '08

Was a model of k.i.s,s. Went back through my memory of audio streaming places I've used in the past until I hit on one that did the download w/o any intermediate steps, happened late last night and don't remember which one came through w/ the goods, could have been WNCW out of Spindale, NC or KRCL out of Salt Lake City or any other of a dozen fm stations that I like to listen to. Somewhere in that mess is a tech person who set up a seamless download as part of their website. Whoever they are, thanks! Now I have my audio streaming capability back. On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 2:19 PM, <billycrook(a)gmail.com> wrote: > You're welcome. But the best way to thank me is to take a couple > seconds to post to the thread what you did to get it to work. That > way you wrap up the thread, and make the knowledge available to the > next guy. > > On 2008-09-09, Craig Aldinger <gonzogone(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Thanks for the assist, between what you & Jon said, I did some mental > > muddling (biological memory not being as organized/efficient as computer > > memory) and started hunting a bit and got it loaded without too much > pain. > > Now I can stream my audio stuff again. > > Once again, thanks! > > Craig > > >

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