KCLUG July 2006

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Polls re: new linux distribution
by Rich Edelman 24 Sep '06

24 Sep '06

Since the list has been slow lately, I figured I'd try to stir up some conversation/debate by asking a few questions. :) First a quick note. I'm an LFSer (Linux From Scratch) when I'm not using OpenSUSE. I've often thought of making some of my LFS packages available to the community, but haven't because of the nature of LFS. Anyway, I was thinking more about that tonight and decided to ask the list some questions. If you were to start a new linux distribution, what would you use for package management? rpm? dpkg? none (tar.bz2s)? portage? roll your own? What about managing dependencies and fetching packages from remote repositories? yast? apt? smart? yum? urpmi? portage? What architectures / hardware would you support? ppc? alpha? x86 / x86_64? On multilib capable arches (such as x86_64), would you support both 32 and 64 bit, or go 64 bit only? Would you go the way of Ubuntu, and work around Gnome mainly? Or the way SuSE traditionally was, and be mostly KDE oriented? There we go, I think that might get the ball rolling. :) Rich

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"autorun" type functionality from automounter
by Kyle Sexton 31 Jul '06

31 Jul '06

I was wondering if anyone had a way to automatically run a command after automounter sees a new device and mounts it. My goal is to automatically sync over new podcasts to an mp3 player when it's mounted. I've searched around and haven't seen a simple way to do this. I'm trying to avoid writing a poller in a cronjob that looks for the device. :) Thanks, Kyle

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Adobe Live Cycle Designer - Paperless Product Cycle - Electronic Document System
by Dale Beams 28 Jul '06

28 Jul '06

I am looking for open source solutions that fit the following requirements. PDF - HTML Creation similar to Adobe Live Cycle Designer Storage of PDF files that are indexed and can be searched for by index. IE: Customer Invoice - Index -- Customer Name/Number -- Dealer Name/Number -- Date -- Part #'s I am aware that PDF's can be searched, and i suspect indexed from a search. Ideally, one would create a pdf and dump to a que where it would be indexed/sorted for filing/searching. Any ideas would be appreciated.

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RE: "autorun" type functionality from automounter
by Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO 25 Jul '06

25 Jul '06

If you use KDE, you could create a shortcut containing the command and click after the mount happens. On Kubuntu, I've had USB pen drives auto mount. Also, have you looked into any of the sync apps like ksync? From: Kyle Sexton Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 3:05 PM To: kclug Subject: "autorun" type functionality from automounter I was wondering if anyone had a way to automatically run a command after automounter sees a new device and mounts it. My goal is to automatically sync over new podcasts to an mp3 player when it's mounted. I've searched around and haven't seen a simple way to do this. I'm trying to avoid writing a poller in a cronjob that looks for the device. :) Thanks, Kyle

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basement cleaning - hardware / appliance for sale.
by hanasaki 21 Jul '06

21 Jul '06

** reply to hanasaki(a)gmail.com - other servers may be down for upgrades. ** Please reply with and offer and/or a phone number so we can discuss ** Must pickup yourself - Overland Park area two tower cases - Must buy both 350W? PSU each 8 year old Washer Dryer (Amana - electric) - great shape 8 year old refrigerator (SideBySide w/ Water/ice) - great shape 19" mitsubishi crt - 900DF 19" samsung crt - Diamond 9I ** System ** 128 Meg VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc 215CT [Mach64 CT] ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82371FB PIIX ISA [Triton I] 4.5 GIG drive cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 5 model : 2 model name : Pentium 75 - 200 stepping : 12 cpu MHz : 165.798 fdiv_bug : no hlt_bug : no f00f_bug : yes coma_bug : no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 1 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr mce cx8 bogomips : 325.63 ** System ** 256 Meg 6 GIG drive cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 6 model : 8 model name : Celeron (Coppermine) stepping : 10 cpu MHz : 801.889 cache size : 128 KB fdiv_bug : no hlt_bug : no f00f_bug : no coma_bug : no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 2 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr sse bogomips : 1589.24

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Cheap printers & linux-compatible music players
by Charles Steinkuehler 20 Jul '06

20 Jul '06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Passing on some recent deals I enjoyed recently on some linux-compatible hardware. I'm not affiliated in any way with either of these, just thought someone else might like to take advantage: HP 8100/8150 series printers on e-bay: Currently several of these large-format, work-horse printers (many with *DUPLEXERS*) are available in KC for $340-$390 with $25 local pickup fee (not $125 shipping by freight!). I'm going to pick mine up tomorrow! :) Search for "laserjet (8100*,8150*) within 75 miles of a KC zipcode if the following link doesn't work: http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?sofocus=bs&sbrftog=1&fstype=1&catr… For the musically inclined, I recently got a good deal on an iRiver T30 from compgeeks (available in 512M for $30 and $1G for $50). These come with firmware that requires Windows Media 10 for subscription downloads, but they can be re-flashed to UMS firmware (looks just like a USB Memory Stick, readily supported by linux) using a supported iRiver update utility (ie: no hacking required!), *AND* these play OGG files, not just MP3 (I refuse to use the now license encumbered MP3 format, and rip to FLAC and OGG): http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=T30-512-R&cpc=SCH http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=T30-1GB-R&cpc=SCH ...they also have other flavors of iRiver devices available if you don't like the T30s, just search for iRiver. NOTE: I don't know if anything other than the T30s has UMS firmware supported/provided by iRiver. iRiver info on switching between MTP<->UMS modes: http://www.iriver.com/html/support/faq/sufq_view.asp?searchProductIdx=&sear… - -- Charles Steinkuehler charles(a)steinkuehler.net -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEv7eiLywbqEHdNFwRAtAHAJ9ehTubvidxvJcC5xaU2kc8ENxu6QCcCuk3 LG4dUpFQ9//YC6MN9PvnYjo= =nMxQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Kubuntu sound was [RE: Graphics files]
by Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO 19 Jul '06

19 Jul '06

Is totem a GTK/Gnome app? I don't think I have that, I have Kaffeine though. >-----Original Message----- >From: JB Reefer >Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 4:35 PM > >This happens to me all the time, its the sound system not >recognizing amarok because its buggy (or something like that.) >What you need to do is play a video file in totem, because >that somehow makes the sound pop back on again. >

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forwarding because geeks are scary tough
by David Nicol 18 Jul '06

18 Jul '06

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Subject: actors needed for fight film (filmed locally) Please feel free to forward widely: EXTRAS NEEDED FOR LOCAL FILM! To all interested in being in "Rigged": Thanks to everyone for your interest in this film. We are looking for extras to be involved in the making of an underground boxing film, think "Million Dollar Baby" meets "Fight Club." This is your chance to be a part of a major motion picture being shot here in KC! Here's the schedule for all four days: Date: Saturday July 15th Location: underneath the 7th street bridge between Southwest Blvd and I-35 in Kansas City, KS (RSVP for directions) Parking: on location, but dirt roads or off-road Time: 08:30 PM The Scene: Underground boxing match between "Henry the Hacksaw" and a female boxer, "Kid Vixen" (our hero) Wardrobe: Dress rough and tough. Dark clothes and leather are great, but t-shirts and jeans can work as well. No logos. Date: Thursday July 20h AND Friday July 21st Location: Clarion Hotel 9103 E. 39th Street Kansas City, MO, 64133 Parking: on location Time: 06:00 PM The Scene: The FINAL BATTLE between our hero, "Kid Vixen", and the villain "Richter" ... an epic boxing match Wardrobe: Dress can be casual, or classy and upscale ... this is a legal boxing match this time. Dark clothes are great, but suits and ties work as well. No logos. Also: G-Love from the band G-Love & Special Sauce will be appearing in the scene Friday night! Date: Saturday July 22nd Location: parking lot at intersection of 11th St and Mulberry in the West Bottoms in Kansas City, MO Parking: on location Time: 08:30 PM The Scene: An illegal street race Wardrobe: Dress rough and tough. Dark clothes and leather are great, but t-shirts and jeans can work as well. No logos. If you can only come one of the four nights, please come Friday the 21st ... this is the biggest scene in the movie. I'll try to answer all other questions here: - What will extras be doing? -- Each of these scenes takes place at an illegal boxing match (or street race). Extras are playing attendees at these events. They need to be excitedly watching the events in question. Energy is the most important thing. - Can under 18 attend? -- We're looking for crowd members attending underground boxing matches, which means children are unfortunately out. Teenagers that look older are welcome, however. Parents, keep in mind that this is an R-rated film with adult language, themes, and violence. - Is there any pay? -- "Rigged" is an independent film, and much of the cast and crew on "Rigged" are working on a volunteer basis. Extras are as well. - Can I bring friends? -- Absolutely!!! We need all the help we can get to make these scenes as exciting as possible. Tell everyone you know. - What if Im late? No problem! Any time you have to make it is much appreciated! If you are available any of these days, please write RiggedExtras(a)yahoo.com with RSVP and the date(s) in the subject line or message. And feel free to write back with any questions not covered here, or call at 785-979-3789. Thanks! - Stephen Deaver UPM, "Rigged"

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RE: Graphics files
by Shannon Miller 18 Jul '06

18 Jul '06

http://www.getautomatix.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=15&It… On Mon, 2006-07-17 at 12:00 -0500, kclug-request(a)kclug.org wrote: > Send Kclug mailing list submissions to > kclug(a)kclug.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > kclug-request(a)kclug.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > kclug-owner(a)kclug.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Kclug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. RE: Graphics files (Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO) > 2. Re: Graphics files (Brandon Holtsclaw) > 3. RE: Graphics files (Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO) > 4. RE: Graphics files (Gene Dascher) > 5. RE: Graphics files (Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO) > 6. RE: Graphics files (Jason D. Clinton) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 08:37:24 -0500 > From: "Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO" <brian.kelsay(a)kcc.usda.gov> > Subject: RE: Graphics files > To: <kclug(a)kclug.org> > Message-ID: > <1DF8586D689C1F4A9008A81552BBDEE506447C(a)MOKANSASCIS301.agcentral.one.usda.gov> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I have Kubuntu Dapper 6.06 AMD64 at home and have loaded/ran Easyubuntu > in order to get added repos, multimedia, etc. I have system sounds > working and I get audio and video from a DVD playing in the drive, but > .mp3 files give no sound when played in Amarok. > > Crweb had me install some lib stuff that should have added support, but > "w32codecs" said it had no installation target, like it had changed it's > name. He linked me to a .deb, which wouldn't install because it was > meant for i386 and not x64. > > I'll check out the following links tonight to see if that sheds more > insight. > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Jason D. Clinton > >Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2006 10:42 AM > > >Or on Debian: > > > >http://www.debian-multimedia.org > > > >Or on the ever talked-about Ubuntu: > > > >https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 09:28:43 -0500 > From: Brandon Holtsclaw <brandon(a)imbrandon.com> > Subject: Re: Graphics files > To: "Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO" <brian.kelsay(a)kcc.usda.gov> > Cc: kclug(a)kclug.org > Message-ID: <44BB9E9B.6050704(a)imbrandon.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > .mp3 files give no sound when played in Amarok. > > > > Crweb had me install some lib stuff that should have added support, but > > "w32codecs" said it had no installation target, like it had changed it's > > name. He linked me to a .deb, which wouldn't install because it was > > meant for i386 and not x64. > > its not w32codecs that amarok uses do this and all your trubbles will be > over ( as far as mp3's for amarok ) > > " sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs " > > - -- > Brandon Holtsclaw > imbrandon(a)kubuntu.org > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFEu56bbPuHGYh9n9IRAnWEAJ0VuAsaGTVt3GBffEgiWhT6hRAvjQCghJDP > t/erUtOFgpXfgXpqEweu/V8= > =4zEc > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 09:58:12 -0500 > From: "Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO" <brian.kelsay(a)kcc.usda.gov> > Subject: RE: Graphics files > To: <kclug(a)kclug.org> > Message-ID: > <1DF8586D689C1F4A9008A81552BBDEE5F1EDA1(a)MOKANSASCIS301.agcentral.one.usda.gov> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Brandon Holtsclaw > >Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 9:29 AM > > > > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >> > >> .mp3 files give no sound when played in Amarok. > >> > >> Crweb had me install some lib stuff that should have added support, > >> but "w32codecs" said it had no installation target, like it had > >> changed it's name. He linked me to a .deb, which wouldn't install > >> because it was meant for i386 and not x64. > > > >its not w32codecs that amarok uses do this and all your > >troubles will be over ( as far as mp3's for amarok ) > > > >" sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs " > > > >- -- > >Brandon Holtsclaw > >imbrandon(a)kubuntu.org > > That is one of the things I added. Still no sound out of Amarok. It > acts like it is playing though. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 10:03:36 -0500 > From: "Gene Dascher" <gedascher(a)multiservice.com> > Subject: RE: Graphics files > To: <kclug(a)kclug.org> > Message-ID: <000301c6a9b2$2de6c890$f93f1eac(a)multiservice.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > >>> .mp3 files give no sound when played in Amarok. > > >>" sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs " > > >That is one of the things I added. Still no sound out of Amarok. > >It acts like it is playing though. > > This is probably an obvious question, but have you checked your WAVE > output levels in alsamixer, or whatever mixer you are using? > > Gene > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 10:27:12 -0500 > From: "Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO" <brian.kelsay(a)kcc.usda.gov> > Subject: RE: Graphics files > To: <kclug(a)kclug.org> > Message-ID: > <1DF8586D689C1F4A9008A81552BBDEE5F1EDA2(a)MOKANSASCIS301.agcentral.one.usda.gov> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Gene Dascher > >Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 10:04 AM > > > > >>>> .mp3 files give no sound when played in Amarok. > > > >>>" sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs " > > > >>That is one of the things I added. Still no sound out of Amarok. > >>It acts like it is playing though. > > > >This is probably an obvious question, but have you checked > >your WAVE output levels in alsamixer, or whatever mixer you are using? > > > >Gene > > I have Kmix and I have tried raising all the levels up, but it makes no > difference. > AC '97 level was off and at bottom as well as 3D, Mono, Surround, Mic, > Input. PCM was up. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 10:30:06 -0500 > From: "Jason D. Clinton" <me(a)jasonclinton.com> > Subject: RE: Graphics files > To: "Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO" <brian.kelsay(a)kcc.usda.gov> > Cc: kclug(a)kclug.org > Message-ID: <1153150206.13081.117.camel(a)desktop1.localdomain> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > On Mon, 2006-07-17 at 10:27 -0500, Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO > wrote: > > I have Kmix and I have tried raising all the levels up, but it makes no > > difference. > > AC '97 level was off and at bottom as well as 3D, Mono, Surround, Mic, > > Input. PCM was up. > > On Debian based distros there is a curses script called "alsaconf" which > will automatically choose the correct primary audio device and set the > mixer levels correctly. > > >

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off topic -AMD Socket A motherboard search
by rod 18 Jul '06

18 Jul '06

Anyone have a good lead on finding a MB that accepts: AMD Athlon XP 2500 (socket A) DDR 333 memory AGPx8 I'm trying to replace a ASUS A7V8X-X I've struck out at: MicroCenter (I should have done a more exhaustive search here) CompUSA Computer Depot Surplus Exchange Dash Computer Dist. Even Ebay prices where 50% more that what I paid for my board 2 years ago. Hypertech has one for $40 (only 3 pci slots) that I plan to pick up tonight but thought I would also ask the group. Thanks I plan to be a the meeting tonight. Rod Holcomb

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