October 2006 - KCLUG

RE: linux distro for laptop
by Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO 24 Oct '06

24 Oct '06

But does it default to the same defaults that is typical? Minimize, Maximize, Close for button order. Does it scan for window themes? -----Original Message----- From: kclug-bounces(a)kclug.org [mailto:kclug-bounces@kclug.org] Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 10:31 AM >>On Tue, 2006-10-24 at 09:47 -0500, Luke -Jr wrote: >> Does Beryl respect the configured window decoration, button order, etc? >No it doesn't. Just like it completely ignores all of Metacity's gconf >settings that affect the same types things.

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Re: linux distro for laptop
by Luke-Jr 24 Oct '06

24 Oct '06

On Tuesday 24 October 2006 13:48, Jason D. Clinton wrote: > On Tue, 2006-10-24 at 04:04 +0000, Luke-Jr wrote: > > > The Beryl fork of Compiz has removed all GNOME dependencies. It is now > > > a completely stand-alone application. > > > > But you can't use it with KWin/KDE. > > Indeed you can in the same way that you use it with GNOME. beryl > --replace kills any already running window manager. In GNOME's case it > kills Metacity; in KDE's case it kill KDM. You just proved my point. It replaces/kills KWin. KWin is an essential part of KDE. If it's missing, it's no longer KDE that you're using, it's some hybrid. GNOME differs because it supports and is designed able to handle changing the window manager.

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linux distro for laptop
by steve trog 24 Oct '06

24 Oct '06

hey all long time member but i never post anything i just read it all. anyway i got a toshiba satalite A105-S4054 and im tired of using windows xp on every thing (i keep it on my main comp b/c i play alot of games) and i want linux oin my laptop because i love the freedome and all the stuff i can do and change on linux. is athere a good distro to put on a laptop computer or is any distro good? please tell me something good im looking forward to hearing from ya'll. thanks! _________________________________________________________________ Add a Yahoo! contact to Windows Live Messenger for a chance to win a free trip! http://www.imagine-windowslive.com/minisites/yahoo/default.aspx?locale=en-u…

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JOBOP: Unix admin(s)
by Hal Duston 23 Oct '06

23 Oct '06

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Looking for MIPS hardware
by Tom Bruno 21 Oct '06

21 Oct '06

I'm looking for a old MIPS machine, perferably one that powers up. Free or cheap would be excellent. I don't really care how old or how slow I just need mips 32 bit.

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Semi-OT: IT Degrees (was Re: JFS experiences?)
by Jared 19 Oct '06

19 Oct '06

> I was considering getting a four-year IT degree at > UMKC but I'm having second thoughts now that I've > spoken to a counselor and found that even though I'm > getting an AAS in IT from JCCC, none of the technical > courses will transfer or count for anything. This is > because UMKC's "IT" degree is actually a thinly > disguised CIS degree with a bunch of business classes > as well. Oh, and two actual technical IT courses > thrown in so they can call it an Information > Technology degree ("look! it has some IT classes!"). Not having been at UMKC for about a decade, I see this as interesting news. Back in the day, the true geeks had more authority than this. So what I'm hearing is that UMKC is churning out a generation of IT folks who believe they have technical knowledge but in fact are managers of the worst kind, because they have no technical knowledge yet believe they do? Managers who actually have technical knowledge are the best. Managers who have no technical knowledge can still be decent as managers, but such managers who only _think_ they have technical knowledge ... are no fun. Sounds like the Bloch School of Business needs more Linux under the hood. If UMKC has a presence at the ITEC show, encourage them to put more Linux classes (and machines) in their curriculum. I believe that Linux has a way of gracefully restoring order to a top-down managerial-heavy environment. That oughta put the conversation back on topic. :-) -Jared

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Demonstrating Video at ITEC
by Leo Mauler 19 Oct '06

19 Oct '06

I wanted to demonstrate how Linux can do video, even in a low end box such as mine. Obviously you cannot show stuff you have recorded on your MythTV box. However, I have found a video about FOSS and its use in poorer countries of the world, first broadcast in May 2006. It was produced by the BBC, but they have released it under the Creative Commons license and made it available for download. "The Codebreakers A BBC World Documentary on FOSS and Development" http://www.apdip.net/news/fossdoc They have it in multiple video formats including DVD ISO (bittorrent only) and OGG video. The video is 40 minutes long so if I can find another public domain video around 20-30 minutes in size, you need only hear the FOSS documentary six times instead of nine times (three times every two hours). Of course I'm jumping ahead here: can there be demonstration videos playing in ITEC booths? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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KCLUG Meeting Oct. 17th, ITEC details?
by Leo Mauler 19 Oct '06

19 Oct '06

I wanted to be at the meeting tonight. Who is bringing the CDs and will some of them be around before ITEC starts on October 25th? Setup for ITEC begins at 8am Wednesday morning (October 25th). I'll be there unloading my demo system, "How you can revive older hardware to use Linux, even OpenOffice.org 2.0!" (PIII-600Mhz, 256MB RAM, 15GB/4GB/4GB hard drives, Debian "Etch"). I'll have to trot in a CRT as I have no other type of monitors, and it helps underline the "revive older technology" argument. I can bring along a surge strip and an extension cord or two. Do they provide tables like last time? We should work out some way to display books vertically (one short level above the table level) to fit more items on the tables. They seemed to have wireless Internet at one time in the Exhibitor Hall. I'm toying with getting a "wireless bridge" so I can use the demo system's existing wired Ethernet card to demonstrate network and Internet functions. The bridge I'm looking at is a four-port switch as well, so if we have up to four systems we can link them all together using the bridge/switch, even if there is no wireless Internet in the hall. Demonstrating VNC was popular last year. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Positive Linux PR
by Leo Mauler 19 Oct '06

19 Oct '06

The LDP has a document titled "Guide to Managing Media and Public Relations in the Linux Community". One section is titled "Working The Trade Show". http://tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Media-Guide/html/trade_show.html http://tinyurl.com/mfu4o Also, with a little updating and removal of what little Windows bashing exists in the document, the "Why Linux?" document on SEUL.org would make a good set of positive Linux PR talking points to keep in mind when manning the ITEC booth. The document was last updated in 1998 so I suspect a bit has changed since then. http://www.seul.org/docs/whylinux.html __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Booth Setup ideas
by Leo Mauler 19 Oct '06

19 Oct '06

Can we ask for a convention hall table or is it just not included in the free booth? I had some ideas for setting up the booth (see attached simple JPEGs). Picture 1 is what we had last year, two tables, one on each side. Picture 2 is a different setup, using two tables but placing one on the side and one on the back, creating an open area in the middle inviting people to step inside the booth to see what we have to offer. The one on the side is the 4' table I'm bringing, leaving some open room at the back for someone to sit. The 4' table has the demo computers on it, and the table at the back has our books and CDs. I rather like the Picture 2 booth setup a little better than last year's setup. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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