KCLUG May 2005

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RE: Today's quiz question
by djgoku 03 May '05

03 May '05

On 5/3/05, Gerald Combs <gerald(a)ethereal.com> wrote: > What happens when you run > > ping 0x7f.1 > > and why? Not sure why, but try pinging 127.1 does the samething, 7f is 127 so adding .1 just makes it work. Weird though. Seems like 127.1.*.* are all able to be pinged and get a response from 127.0.0.1. Jonathan

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Today's quiz question
by Gerald Combs 03 May '05

03 May '05

What happens when you run ping 0x7f.1 and why?

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Re: database
by Jack 03 May '05

03 May '05

--- Dave Hull wrote: > Quoting Leo Mauler <webgiant(a)yahoo.com>: > > > I guess what I'll end up using is SQLite, as the > > poster who mentioned it said that it has an easy > > learning curve. > > Haven't used SQLite, but I recall the learning curve > for MySQL was pretty > shallow. Hell, if I learned it anyone can. And if > you have learned Linux then > you can learn MySQL. I'm going to hazard a guess > that the install base for > MySQL is larger than the install base for SQLite so > getting help with MySQL is > probably going to be easier. I don't recall seeing > very many books at the local > book shop on SQLite, but there's plenty on MySQL. > ... I'm going to have to agree with Dave on this one. The learning curve for MySQL is going to be probably not much more than SQLite (I also haven't seen SQLite). Plus, if you ever need to do some powerful SQL stuff or ever want to play around with doing powerful SQL stuff, then you'll just be able to do them with MySQL. If you go with SQLite, and then you need to do some tricky types of stuff with the data, you'll probably have to port everything over to another DB. From what I understand of SQLite, that is. I hear it is sort of like MySQL in the early days. Lastly, with MySQL you'll be garaunteed to be able to speak to any important database. JMHO, Brian D. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: OT: Bringing India Here (was Re: OT OS issue)
by Leo Mauler 03 May '05

03 May '05

--- Jack <quiet_celt(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > I'm not sure the DoHS is going to be very thrilled > about this. Those Fed types generally don't like > seeing people skirt around the law. Especially with > all those potential terrorists just off-shore! Oops, > Was that a cruise ship we just blew up? We thought > it was an Al Qaeda invasion force. The Bush Administration interfering with Micro$oft? Heaven forbid! :( > --- Leo Mauler wrote: > > > > --- Jack <quiet_celt(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > He doesn't need to relax H1-B restrictions, > > just moor a couple cruise ships in > > international waters just off the coast of > > California. > > > > Saw it on Slashdot (used TinyURL to make the > > link > > unbreakable): http://tinyurl.com/7kqxb > > Its the coolest kludge, and he already has > > $billions to make it happen! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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OT: Yahoo mail up to 1GB
by Leo Mauler 03 May '05

03 May '05

Just noticed it when I was reading messages, that now I've got a 1GB mail storage limit. I'm only using 2% of it, but its a big change anyway. :) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: OT: Bringing India Here (was Re: OT OS issue)
by Leo Mauler 03 May '05

03 May '05

Without getting too political, I was in fact referring to the Micro$oft anti-trust case which went from "break up the company" under the Clinton Justice Department to "slap on the wrist" under the Bush Justice Department. --- Oren Beck <orenbeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 5/3/05, Leo Mauler <webgiant(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > The Bush Administration interfering with > > Micro$oft? Heaven forbid! :( > > Good point. > ANY true enemy of America will be anti-Linux. > Why should the Shrub be any different? > By extension Redmond will NEVER suffer a terrorist > act. > For if someone hampered MS and caused Linux to > spread faster > that would be a Very Good Thing for America. > UH- I meant to say OUR America and NOT the bush > fantasy. > > Oren __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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RE: OT OS issue
by Garrett Goebel 03 May '05

03 May '05

Jack wrote: > > Best bet is: > > 1) back up any data, > 2) format and reinstall, > 3) apply all patches, > 4) reconfigure and reinstall any necessary 3rd party stuff. I feel your pain. I just bought my wife a new laptop and recycled the old one for my daughter. I spent the first 2-3 hours on my wife's machine applying patches, updating stuff, and migrating data over. My daughter's machine took about 6 hours. On #3, depending on the hardware, you need to look at your hardware vendor's website before blindly applying all Microsoft updates. When I booted off the "recovery" disks to restore my wife's old laptop to the factory default drive image... The first site I visted was Sony support. There were a couple updates for her laptop which read "apply this if XP locks up after installing the patch for Microsoft Knowledgebook ######...". Funny how I'd never been able to install XPsp2 because her machine locked up solid during the sp2 install... There were also Sony updates I couldn't install until after I'd applied XP service packs. So you really may have to interleave hardware vendor updates and Microsoft ones. If you need storage capacity, consider going down to MicroCenter, they currently have a deal on a Western Digital 7200RPM 120GB drive for $50 after rebates. They also have a $25 external usb drive enclosure. Its cheap looking, but it works. As a bonus, it is fairly easy to pull off the USB+power component and switch over to an IDE connector. You might also want to pick up a copy of Norton Ghost. Make sure it supports XP (XP's NTFS). They had a deal on Ghost at CompuUSA a while back for $40 after rebates. We use ghost a lot at work. I've heard Ghost 9+ is really Partition Magic Drive Imager made over to look like Ghost. It can do incremental images and scheduled backups. You can traverse and selectively copy files out of an image, and you can also supposedly mount backup images as a drive letter. If there's an OSS version of Ghost that works on NTFS partitions without requiring extensive reading and tweaking, please let me know. Funny how those proprietary OS's so often require proprietary $$$ backup solutions. -- Garrett Goebel IS Development Specialist ScriptPro Direct: 913.403.5261 5828 Reeds Road Main: 913.384.1008 Mission, KS 66202 Fax: 913.384.2180 www.scriptpro.com garrett at scriptpro dot com

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TV Features
by Jonathan Hutchins 03 May '05

03 May '05

British Television has had a text service for a long time. This is usually linked to one of the four main channels you can get over broadcast, and is a menu of news, weather, and some advertising. The format is reminiscent of the BBS days of the '80s, all text menus, simple button press navigation. It's handy to chatch up on the news mid-day or grab a quick weather or traffic report. On Sky TV, the sattelite service in the U.K., they've used these functions to give you much more interactive TV features. The news channels allow you to go into an eight-channel multi-screen format, with a text sidebar and a ticker of your choice. Other options on the menu include some inter-active games and such, and the ability to read eMail from AOL, Yahoo, and a couple of other services (not MSN). Obviously, you need to have some sort of uplink for this to function; the Sky box uses the phone line that it makes PPV reports with, the same thing U.S. sattelite systems all have. I haven't bothered to go all the way into this - the phone line's disconnected from the box except for set-up - and I can imagine that if you wanted to reply to mail using a TV remote would be a pain, but I think it's pretty cool that they have these options. Who knows, some day the U.S. might catch up.

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Re: OT: Bringing India Here (was Re: OT OS issue)
by Jack 03 May '05

03 May '05

This could actually be good news, what with the way Cruise ships are killing off passengers with food poisoning. Hey maybe India, will have to outsource back to us to get back all the people they lose on the cruise ships. Nah, they'll just hire FSU people... oh wait they're already doing that. ;') or :'( ? I'm not sure the DoHS is going to be very thrilled about this. Those Fed types generally don't like seeing people skirt around the law. Especially with all those potential terrorists just off-shore! Oops, Was that a cruise ship we just blew up? We thought it was an Al Qaeda invasion force. --- Leo Mauler wrote: > > --- Jack <quiet_celt(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > He doesn't need to relax H1-B restrictions, just moor > a couple cruise ships in international waters just > off the coast of California. > > Saw it on Slashdot (used TinyURL to make the link > unbreakable): > > http://tinyurl.com/7kqxb > > Its the coolest kludge, and he already has $billions > to make it happen! > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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OT: Bringing India Here (was Re: OT OS issue)
by Leo Mauler 02 May '05

02 May '05

--- Jack <quiet_celt(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > This week Bill Gates announced that he would > > like to see the limits removed on H1-B visas. > > > > Isn't it good enough that he can afford to BUY > > India without having to bring it here for > > storage??? > > No, he's just trying to put the rest of the US IT > industry out of work, in order to kill off all > software competition in the US. Resistance is > futile. ;') He doesn't need to relax H1-B restrictions, just moor a couple cruise ships in international waters just off the coast of California. Saw it on Slashdot (used TinyURL to make the link unbreakable): http://tinyurl.com/7kqxb Its the coolest kludge, and he already has $billions to make it happen! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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