Redhat

numa at thenuma.com numa at thenuma.com
Wed Feb 26 23:23:48 CST 2003


I am not suggesting that users like us give up anything.  A fundamental
flaw of many linux advocates is that they think the world is a Zero-Sum
game.  The existence of Linux toasters does not exclude from this world
Linux swiss army knives.

Part of my biggest beef with the Microsoft camp is that for the
end-user, the product continues to be priced quite high, and is becoming
less capable.  For example look at the limitations present within XP
home vs XP pro.

RedHat in my opinion tries to straddle the fence.  They don't have a
"toaster" product because the cost to create one and to support the
bazillions of users is astronomical, however, they do "try" to sell to
newbies.  This is where this whole thread started was a "relative"
newbie encountering the same typical things we all encounter with Linux.
 I totally understand his sentiments, and I would also feel ripped off.

  Enter, Lindows.  Look at the software repository crap that Lindows
has,
does anyone in this LUG like Linudows?  Nope, of course not.  Do any of
us appove of this idiotic "I use X as Root" mentality?  Nope, of course
not.  But, it has a market.  Lindows would not be appropriate as a
server, or as a Desktop for me.  Personally, I think Lindows is a POS.
But hey, it's there.

Personally, I can't blame RedHat for not pursuing this market.  As you
said yourself, zero margin.

Mandrake tried for a closer to newbie experience, and well... they are
having financial problems.

I don't have a solution.

Besides, there will be a time when your OS doesn't matter.  Let us not
make the same mistake as MS, and miss the forest for the trees.
Confused, well, MS almost missed the internet boat.  Web Services, Grid
Computing, WIRELESS, all of these things point to an OS independent
world.

In other words, all anyone needs is a web browser.

Who controls the Web Browser right now?

Oh, yeah.

> Quoting numa at thenuma.com:
>
>> I agree.  it does suck.  No question.  That's not to say windows is
>> better.  Simply that people have gotten used to windows sucking.  To
>> revolutionize the desktop, away from a court recognized monopoly,
>> linux
>> has to be DRASTICALLY easier.  Like a toaster.
>
> Why would we do that?  Why would we give up the power and flexibility
> that are the essence of Linux just so idiots could use it?  Let
> Microsoft HAVE the idiots.  Let Microsoft make the zero-margin
> toasters.
>
>
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