[OT] Liberty and Independence

[Dustin Decker]

On 25 Feb 2003, Jim Herrmann wrote:

> And the cool thing was that it's 14 miles from "Independence" to
> "Liberty".  If only it was that easy.  Was it not Ben Franklin that
> said, "He who gives up liberty for security, deserves neither."  Read
> the Patriot Act and weep for our country.  Old Ben would be rolling in
> his grave.  

It's one of my favorite quotes... and the first to make it into my 
signature pile.

"They that can give up liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve
neither liberty nor safety."  -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)

It's popular with the OpenBSD croud too... on a few T-Shirts and the like.
Dustin

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