Firewall / active filter question

Jeremy Oberg jeroberg at comcast.net
Fri Dec 13 17:51:59 CST 2002


I believe you're asking about stateless and stateful packet inspection.
 ipchains was stateless (it doesn't do connection tracking), however
iptables (in the 2.4 kernels) is stateful and keeps a connection log for
this purpose.

-Jeremy

----- Original Message -----
From: Jared Smith <jared at trios.org>
Subject: Firewall / active filter question

> I don't know much about firewalls, so forgive me 
> if I'm suggesting something that already exists or 
> is not technically possible.
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> As I understand firewalls, they block all ports 
> except those specifically opened, and they forward 
> IPs to internal addresses, therefore masking 
> what's happening on the inside of the network.
> 
> This is passive. What I lay awake last night 
> thinking was, what about filtering in an active 
> manner? With an active filter, the only packets 
> acceptible are those which have been specifically 
> requested. You'd have a buffer which kept track of 
> all outgoing requests, and waited for a few minutes 
> to receive them. Everything else would be rejected.
> 
> Seems like this would make it impossible for people
> to hack in, unless they were actively monitoring 
> outgoing packets. While this wouldn't work for a 
> server (which needs to accept arbitrary hits), it 
> would work for a surfer.
> 
> Does this already exist?
> 
> -Jared
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