whitewig
D. Hageman
dhageman at dracken.com
Thu Mar 17 01:04:14 CST 2005
On Wed, 16 Mar 2005, Jonathan Hutchins wrote:
> On Wednesday 16 March 2005 03:02 pm, D. Hageman wrote:
>
>> On a side note - we pretty much have to accept the general media
>> distorting the term hacker has modified the definition to the point that
>> it has a new meaning that may not be a good one.
>
> Nonsense. "Hacking" was inclusive of cracking until some self-righteous
> hackers decided they wanted to set themselves above and apart from those
> nasty "crackers", so they tried to patch the language by insisting their
> definition was correct. Never works. Language is what people mean, not what
> they're supposed to mean.
I understand what you are saying and indeed I would agree. The issue is
intent. If you are playing a practical joke on someone - it is a hack.
If you are malicious then you are cracker.
The meaning of a word or phrase in a language is what is understood.
I am sure you have never gotten into trouble by someone misunderstanding
what you were saying. ;-) The road to hell is paved with good
intentions? I forget how the old adage goes . . .
>> On another side note - If a person calls themselves a hacker - they aren't
>> a hacker.
>
> Sure they are. The're someone who hacks stuff. Just as a writer can call
> themselves a hack. It may have a connotation of elite coolness to you, but
> that's just you.
>
> Like I said before, the term and concept pre-date computers. I'm a hardware
> hacker, I can hack code if I have to, I have friends who have hacked other
> kinds of systems. True hacking is in the mind of the hacker.
The writer usually calls themselves a hack because in that connotation is
means something else. It usually means they are a horrible writer. I may
repair my own vehicles, but I won't call myself a mechanic. I may write
some, but I won't call myself a writer. I only call myself a programmer
since I have been paid to do this task for many years.
You are correct that the term pre-dates computers. It used to be a good
hack was a good practical joke. As I stated before ... languages evolve.
If they didn't - words and definitions wouldn't be added to the dictionary
every year. ;-)
You know what happens if you don't evolve right? Wait ... n/m that is a
debate for another day. :-)
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