US IT jobs going overseas creating 'IT Rust Belt'.

jeff jefflist at whitebuddha.com
Mon May 12 19:49:45 CDT 2003


Thanks Jason.  I'm going to post more late tonight, after work.  This 
thread has a very strong relation to linux.  Those who understand the 
true spirit behind linux will not try to censor this thread.  Linux is 
to me is about freedom from fascism, not just in the computer world.

I expect a lot of people to be annoyed; that's what happens in 
polititcs.  If no one gets uncomfortable in a political discussion it 
probably isn't making any progress.

Jason Clinton wrote:

> Mailing List Account for Jason Runyan wrote:
>
>>Take it off list.  I have no interest in reading the ramblings of computer 
>>geeks on economic indicators, and capatlism vs socialism.  We all have our 
>>opinions, yet I doubt anyone on this list are economists of any merit.  This 
>>list discusses Linux and related subjects.  The job market, and its 
>>surrounding politics may be apropriate, but bashing the President and talking 
>>economic theory are not.
>>
> I'm pissed. If you don't want to read a huge flame, skip the rest of 
> this message.
>
> I hate this trend in society. The one that says it's no longer okay to 
> have an opinion; to express your viewpoint with your colleagues. The 
> people on this list are our compatriots and for the most part, we have 
> like-minded views of the world in which we live.
>
> This is a mailing list for people who use Linux. Not a mailing list 
> for Linux. Would you chastize someone in the same way you just did 
> above for talking about politics at a LUG meeting?
>
> I do not aggree with the parent poster's assesment of history, but I'm 
> glad he's expressing his dissent. Sometimes I feel as though I'm 
> shouting at the wind; I'm crying fire to people in a burning house 
> that don't believe the house is on fire. I'm glad that I still know a 
> handful of people who can stomach the disdain we get for pointing out 
> everything that is fucked up in this world.
>
> If you don't want to share the human experience with the rest of us, I 
> suggest you stop thinking for yourself. The simple truth of the matter 
> is, there is no way to construct a 'sanctioned' place for discussion 
> of democracy. In such an environment, we cannot find people who share 
> are unique identities with which to relate. We must discuss such 
> things with the people we understand.
>
> Politics, economics and governement policy affect us all - even Linux 
> users. This parent topic is about jobs in the IT industry and how the 
> aforementioned PEG's affect it. It's certainly on topic and certainly 
> our duty as the citizens affected by these policies to say something 
> about it. If you have someone contructive to add to the coversation, I 
> suggest you simply add it. If you don't, or don't care for the 
> conversation, stop reading the thread.
>
> Discussion, dissent and debate are the democracy our population is 
> fast losing its grasp on.
>
>-- 
>Jason Clinton
>I don't believe in witty sigs.
>




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