I've had it

[Dre G.]

I would really like to setup a real time discussion maybe a week or so
from now about all of this with everyone, 
I mean,forking the list would be bad, I think power is in numbers when
it comes to the local city or state level lugs. The more people the more
diverse we are as a group and the more we all learn from it. GG everyone
wins.SO
Even though I wouldn't be able to attend a meeting in KC anytime soon I
would put forth the idea that we either need to:

A: Try to have a discussion about this on a certain day on the list. OR 
B: Try to have a real time meeting setup on IRC (maybe a week or 2 from
now so everyone can plan to take 3 or 4 minutes to put their 2 cents in)
or
C:(not my fav but its a group thing)
Talk about this in a meeting somewhere in KC in a few week.

Like I said I won't be able to attend the real time face to face meeting
but I would be able to take part in either of the first 2 choices. I
personally would like to go for IRC if everyone is at least open to
discussing this in a rational manner and deciding together what should
or can be done about all thats going on.

Maybe its simple, Hal or someone can maintain the list. Maybe the list
owner will become free, maybe someone can donate hardware if the box is
overloaded? I have NO idea what will come from any of this but I do know
that discussion from the majority of the group in a real time way would
be very nice.

dre

On Sun, 2003-06-01 at 23:38, admin at kclinux.net wrote:
> I've been offering to host kclug.org (for free) for months now. 
> I got a new list up at www.kclinux.net that a lot of people seem to of
> subscribed to in the last 3 days.
> I can turn on phpBB on www.kclinux.net at a click of a button if anyone
> wants me to.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kclug at marauder.illiana.net
> [mailto:owner-kclug at marauder.illiana.net] On Behalf Of Dre G.
> Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 11:27 PM
> To: Jason Clinton
> Cc: Kclug
> Subject: Re: I've had it
> 
> Ok. I would like to ask a few questions, flame at will.
> 
> If Mike that runs the list and is no longer available to maintain it can
> we please elect Hal or someone else to maintain it? 
> 
> Where is the email server physically located?
> 
> How much bandwidth/disk space a day does this list really use?
> 
> And after a few questions I would like to state that I am thank full
> that people do donate their time, money, and energy to a good cause (I
> do the same with my domain hosting other sites for free) but when you
> have a following thats this active, and the leader of the mail list is
> no longer actively maintaining it, maybe its time to pass the torch.
> 
> There may be many reasons as to why any of what I have described isn't
> taking place and I am all ears to hear it.
> 
> I vote for a closed list, thats a bit more timely, and maintained.
> 
> PS If you don't consider my vote because I don't go to meetings so be
> it. But remember, I have only been a member for less then 2 months and
> already am trying to get people hooked up with serious jobs, and give
> away free hosting for others on the list. It's what I can give to the
> list right now and we are all trying to contribute in any way we can.
> Please don't be judge mental about those of us that don't have time to
> drive into KC for meetings. 
> 
> I'm not shouting.
> 
> Thanks for your time
> 
> Andre Gagnon
> Field Support Tech
> amazon.com
> 
> Owner/SE Of The LinuxJunkies.com Network
> 
> 
> On Sun, 2003-06-01 at 22:27, Jason Clinton wrote:
> > Brian Kelsay wrote:
> > 
> > > If you have a
> > >suggestion direct it at Hal D and Mike N via the list in a polite manner
> and
> > >possibly we can have a discussion and not a shouting match over what
> should
> > >be done. 
> > >
> > The suggestions have been made. This discussion has already occured 
> > several times both on the list, in the chat room and at the meetings. 
> > Hal has stated that he has no contact with Mike anymore and that Mike no 
> > longer participates in administration of the list. (Hence the week and a 
> > half of down time several weeks ago.)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Dre G. <enabled at linuxjunkies.com>