DNS Issues

Bill Cavalieri bcavalieri at gekl.net
Thu Jun 6 20:38:36 CDT 2002


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I use the RR Business cable modem service, its the Cisco UBR modem like
you said, I use a linksys cheapo nat/router behind the cisco router, and
have 6 computers on the internet that way. =20

-Bill

On Thu, 2002-06-06 at 15:17, Gerald Combs wrote:

    On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, chuckx wrote:
   =20
    > > I suspect=20
    > > they are using port monitoring to identify my first 48 bit NIC=20
    > > address and when they see packets with another NIC address, they=20
    > > refuse the DHCP request and I can't direct connect another system t=
o=20
    > > my cable modem, thus I use NAT through the router to keep both my=20
    > > systems up and on line.  Pretty slick and easy to administer.
    >=20
    > What you described is just about right.  Once you reach the maximum n=
umber
    > of clients your modem is configured for, network traffic from additio=
nal
    > hosts is not passed on to the cable network by the cable modem.  Noti=
ce that
    > your connection is not being actively monitored though.  Your cable m=
odem is
    > a just network bridge that is configured to pass network traffic for =
a
    > limited number of hosts.  The modem does keep track of the hosts conn=
ected
    > to it via their MAC addresses.
   =20
    If RR is running Cisco uBR equipment (and I'm pretty sure they are),
    they can block this at their end of the connection with the one-liner
    'cable max-cpe 1':
   =20
      http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/cable/bbccmref/bbcmts=
.htm#xtocid42
   =20
    The above link is an interesting read.  They can mess with your cable
    connection in all sorts of odd and interesting ways.
   =20
   =20
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Bill Cavalieri
bcavalieri at gekl.net
VP IT Systems
816 880 0066

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I use the RR Business cable modem service, its the Cisco UBR modem like you=
 said, I use a linksys cheapo nat/router behind the cisco router, and have =
6 computers on the internet that way.&nbsp;=20
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<BR>
-Bill
<BR>

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On Thu, 2002-06-06 at 15:17, Gerald Combs wrote:
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<PRE><FONT COLOR=3D"#737373"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, chuckx=
 wrote:</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#737373"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#737373"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>&gt; &gt; I suspect </FONT></FO=
NT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#737373"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>&gt; &gt; they are using port m=
onitoring to identify my first 48 bit NIC </FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#737373"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>&gt; &gt; address and when they=
 see packets with another NIC address, they </FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#737373"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>&gt; &gt; refuse the DHCP reque=
st and I can't direct connect another system to </FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#737373"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>&gt; &gt; my cable modem, thus =
I use NAT through the router to keep both my </FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#737373"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>&gt; &gt; systems up and on lin=
e.  Pretty slick and easy to administer.</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#737373"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>&gt; </FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#737373"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>&gt; What you described is just=
 about right.  Once you reach the maximum number</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#737373"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>&gt; of clients your modem is c=
onfigured for, network traffic from additional</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#737373"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>&gt; hosts is not passed on to =
the cable network by the cable modem.  Notice that</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#737373"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>&gt; your connection is not bei=
ng actively monitored though.  Your cable modem is</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#737373"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>&gt; a just network bridge that=
 is configured to pass network traffic for a</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#737373"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>&gt; limited number of hosts.  =
The modem does keep track of the hosts connected</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#737373"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>&gt; to it via their MAC addres=
ses.</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#737373"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#737373"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>If RR is running Cisco uBR equi=
pment (and I'm pretty sure they are),</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#737373"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>they can block this at their en=
d of the connection with the one-liner</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#737373"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>'cable max-cpe 1':</FONT></FONT=
></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#737373"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#737373"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>  http://www.cisco.com/univercd=
/cc/td/doc/product/cable/bbccmref/bbcmts.htm#xtocid42</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#737373"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#737373"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>The above link is an interestin=
g read.  They can mess with your cable</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#737373"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>connection in all sorts of odd =
and interesting ways.</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#737373"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#737373"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#737373"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#737373"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>KC Linux Users Group -- to unsu=
bscribe send mail to majordomo at kclug.org</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#737373"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>Enter without the quotes in bod=
<FONT COLOR=3D"#737373"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I></FONT></FONT></I></PRE>
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<FONT SIZE=3D"2"><B>Bill Cavalieri</FONT></B>
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