Wine, Whine, installs, and the like

[Steve Johnson]

Nope, your not offensive, just omnipotent and pontificative.

Yes Mac OS is great as long as you don't attempt to run any real
applications,
or network it, or do any real work with it.  OS-X is great as long as you
don't try to use any Mac aps on it.  I'm in the GA business, so I know just
a
teensy bit about what I say on this subject....

I do agree with your philosophy with learning, except I try to learn 10 new
things a day.

sj

>===== Original Message From D. Hageman <SMTP:dhageman at dracken.com> =====
>On Thu, 8 Nov 2001, Steev Johnson wrote:
>
>>
>> Unfortunately, I have to deal with MAC OS too much already thank you.
>
>Mac OS is a great operating system and I think that the new releases have
>a lot of potential.   Shoot almost every GUI shell since then has tried to
>replicate it to some degree or another.
>
>> It must be great to know everything.
>
>Well, I don't know everything yet, but I work closer to that goal every
>day.  Some people say I won't ever reach that goal, but oh well - you
>gotta try right?  I get the impression that you found some of my comments
>offensive - please look at placement of the smileys to assist you in
>interperting my comments.  As for the rest of my reply - their is good
>information in there.  I find it a wasted day when I don't learn
>something.  :-)
>
>
>>
>> sj
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: D. Hageman [mailto:dhageman at dracken.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 2:27 PM
>> To: Steev Johnson
>> Cc: kclug at kclug.org
>> Subject: Re: Wine, Whine, installs, and the like
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 8 Nov 2001, Steev Johnson wrote:
>>
>> > I saw the posts on WINE and I thought about the fact that the only way
>>
>> > I can bear installing software on Linux is to drink some wine first.
>> > Now
>>
>> Well, if that is what you have to do then that is what you have to do.
>> I
>> recommend that if you think that you are becomming an alcoholic you
>> switch
>> to Mac OS.  :-)
>>
>> > Well, so does Linux.
>>
>> No.
>>
>> Depends on the distrobution you run and what the philosphy is.  If you
>> get
>> a BSD style distro you will find that you have neat little directories
>> for
>> most major pieces of software with the binaries soft linked back into
>> your
>> path.  RPM/DEB based distros do spread files around, but if you know how
>>
>> to use your package tool you can find the files very easily.
>>
>> rpm -ql <package>
>>
>>
>> > Let's take for example the MYSQL package as implemented under Trustix,
>>
>> > or any other distribution for that matter.  None of the RPMS really
>> > WORK to get it installed, there is still tons of Mickey mouse to make
>> > it work
>> > - if it ever does.
>>
>> Well, sounds like you need to write the maintainers of the RPM and let
>> them know that their RPMs are broken.
>>
>> > trying to figure out why safe_mysqld hangs.   What every happened to
>> the
>> > glorious days of DOS when everything was in the same %$&! directory!?
>> > What was wrong with that?
>>
>> Nothing, see above.
>>
>> >
>> > Yes, I understand the shared data and the centralized config
>> > can/should be somewhere else, but this is just a mess!  Whether it
>> > gets installed under /usr/bin or /usr/shared or usr/local or whatever
>> > seems to depend on how someone was feeling that day.  Much like
>> > windows.  At least with windows, I KNOW there are only a couple places
>>
>> > other than the app directory that they are going to dump DLLs and the
>> > like.
>>
>> And why ... because you have run Windows for so long.  It is called
>> experience.
>>
>> > cobol.  If I can't figure this stuff out easily, how is the average
>> > sysop ever going to be able to deal with this?
>>
>> No matter how I answer this question it will be bad.  I will pass ;-)
>>
>> Have fun!
>>
>>
>>
>
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