Since we last discussed this, Ubuntu 5.10 has been released. I downloaded it tonight and I've just discovered that there's a HUGELY important feature on their Live CD that I think we should consider: the "Live CD" not only includes the standard "live" Linux environment but also a pretty Windows autorun "welcome screen" with *installers* for OpenOffice, Mozilla Firefox and GAIM for Windows! IMHO, this is wonderful! We can hand out a _single_ CD that promotes using open source software on either Windows or Linux at the same time! Download it and try it out! It's so pretty too. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ Anyways, this is hands-down the best "newbie" CD I've ever found. The Ubuntu guys are really deserve a lot of accolades for this... -- I use digital signatures and encryption. Stored at pgp.mit.edu key "0x8DB3BF09" F628 D9D3 E57A C281 5EFE 7DF7 B52A A393 8DB3 BF09