Ubuntu
Arthur Pemberton
pemboa at gmail.com
Tue Mar 18 01:38:35 CDT 2008
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 11:21 PM, Leo Mauler <webgiant at yahoo.com> wrote:
> --- Luke -Jr <luke at dashjr.org> wrote:
>
> > On Thursday 13 March 2008, Leo Mauler wrote:
> > > *Default* KDE has:
> > >
> > > 1) A "Start" menu in the lower left corner,
> > > which is very similar to Windows.
> >
> > Hm, I wonder why. Obviously, the left is logical
> > for left-to-right languages. Which means that
> > even if we assume there are no other reasons for
> > top/bottom, the choice is between being similar
> > to another common OS and use the bottom, or using
> > the top just to be not Windows. What reasons are
> > there to use the top over the bottom?
>
>
> > > *Default* GNOME has:
> > >
> > > 1) A "Start" menu in the upper left corner,
> > > completely unlike Windows.
> > >
> > > 2) A user application/applet bar at both the
> > > top and bottom of the screen, again completely
> > > unlike Windows.
> >
> > Why? Just to be "completely unlike Windows"?
>
> One thing I particularly enjoy about using both top
> and bottom is the division between the "menu and
> applets" bar, and the "desktops and running
> applications" bar.
I have tested out all the configs, every time I install Fedora I take
a few hours to give KDE a fresh look
> Instead of one bottom taskbar (in
> Windows and KDE)
This is purely it's default state, so doesn't seem fair to use that as
a mark against it.
> which has to hold everything, a top
> and bottom bar means more of what I'm doing is visible
> at any one time, and no application names are being
> abbreviated or erased in their buttons. I also get to
> see day of the week, date, and seconds in addition to
> the time, without having to increase the width of a
> single taskbar or further shrink everything else on a
> single taskbar.
Really, you get to decide how you want it.
> I don't know if KDE does what I call "application
> instance stacking", where three instances of, say,
> Notepad, are stacked in a single button in the
> "running applications" section of the bottom bar in
> Windows.
This is optional in both Windows and KDE
> If KDE does do that behavior then I have
> another reason to dislike KDE, though I'm afraid its a
> bit of a "damned if you do, damned if you don't"
> situation for KDE, because the alternative to
> "application stacking" is to shorten the application
> button size until the text is unreadable.
Is it still damned if it leaves the choice to the user?
> Obviously I could do more to make my workspace more
> efficient by really customizing my window manager, but
> as I haven't had a lot of free time lately, having a
> top and bottom bar in default Ubuntu Linux has made me
> rather enjoy using Linux (and made Windows in many
> ways downright painful).
It takes less than a minute to add a second bar. Definitely less than 5 clicks
> Multiple desktops might
> alleviate the "crammed tight bottom bar"situation in
> KDE, but it just doesn't seem as efficient as the way
> GNOME does it.
Do explain.
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