ISPs, Newsgroups, etc. ...OH MY!!!

[Jeffrey Watts]

Or, perhaps it's the fact that 99% of USENET is spam, virii, and porn now.

I think it's going a bit overboard into making this about The Man
Keeping Us Down.  I think the only real issue is that an individual
state passed a ruling which has national impact.

Those companies ditched USENET because very few people still use it
and most of them are people are looking for pornography.  A few
legitimate folks still use USENET, but let's be honest here - it's
been 8 years or so since it was relevant.

I don't blame them for dropping their support, they don't want to have
to filter access based upon their customer's location, and USENET
isn't a money-making service for them.

If you're going to pick a cause to fight for, it shouldn't be to save
USENET, especially since I doubt many of you here actually use it any
more (unless you're looking for porn, but then again most of those
folks have moved to Torrents).

Jeffrey.

On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Julie <betelgeuse67stang at yahoo.com> wrote:
> While I comprehend Jonathan's explanation of "The AOL Ruling", etc. I
> totally and completely agree with Ty in that the ISPs are throwing the baby
> out with the bathwater.
>
> First it's Newgroups. WHAT will be NEXT????? No, I don't use a newsgroup....
> ... ...don't even know how or have any interest in them. But what I do know
> is that Draconian laws like the AOL Ruling are what ISPs should be fighting,
> not us...their PAYING customers!!!
>
> <Steps up onto soapbox>
>
> Think about this:
>
> Back in the day, the internet was a GREAT thing!!! People could _*freely*_
> learn and exchange ideas with ease. The Genie had been let out of the
> bottle!!! Now, govs all around the world are desperately trying to re-bottle
> that Genie!
>
> Simply look at _*all*_ the new laws being drawn up and put into place to
> stiffle the internet in just about every country in the world. It doesn't
> stop with the internet, either.
>
> Look at TV programing and the way that Cable and Satellite companies "tier"
> their channels into sections with the least educational channels being at
> the cheapest levels while the most educational channels are a lot more
> expensive.
>
> NOW, with DTV becomming *law* the poorest must pay just to get what is
> SUPPOSED to be FREE and has been since its inception. Yet _more_
> 'censorship'/whatever you want to call it.
>
> Radio is coming next. Just watch and see..........
>
> It seems that with all of this, the NWO is becoming closer and closer to
> completely shutting down the freedom of electonic expression except for
> their own nefarious purposes.
>
> After all, a dumb population is an EASIER population to CONTROL!!!!!
>
> Yes, Ty, I'll call TW and rant the daylights out of them. But ya know what?
> MOST people probably don't even know their libertys are being taken away
> from them in this way. Therefore, the few of us who do AND *ACTUALLY* let
> our voices be heard are going to seem somewhat moot. In addition, where are
> we to go to get back what we lost? Just look at the way we have runaway gov
> "victimizing" our Constitutional Rights as it is and you'll see the answer
> clearer than you already $do.
>
> <Steps down off of soapbox now>
>
> Please excuse the rant, but I feel better now. ; )
>
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