Reply from Congressman Emanuel Cleaver concerning Orphan WorksActof 2008

[Jeffrey Watts]

You ignorant fool.  I'm not talking about "American Indians".  I'm talking
about the Native American Party, also known as the Know-Nothings and the
Native Americans.  Please learn your history.  You are a throwback, sir.

And yes, from what you've said I think it's pretty accurate to call you a
xenophobe and a racist.  So, from what you're saying are we to deduce that
indigenous Americans "failed" to protect their borders and thus they got
what they deserved?  I'm sure smallpox, syphilis, and muskets had nothing to
do with it...  They just needed to PROTECT THEIR BORDERS!  LOL.

Jeffrey.

On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 4:10 PM, James Sissel <jimsissel at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Ya, I've heard that "Native American" crap too.  They didn't protect their
> borders and look what happened to them.  I don't plan on that happening to
> the Unites States of America.  We are not going to be singing "America The
> Beautiful" in Spanish, French, German, or any other language than English.
> Call me racist or xenophobe if you wish.  When logic fails name calling is
> the next step.  The point being right now, not "pre-1924", we have laws
> about immigration.  (Gee, I wonder why those laws were written.)
>
> And once again, for those who are too dim witted to understand, we are
> talking about ILLEGAL immigration and we don't care if it is North, South,
> East, or West.  Illegal is illegal.  When the burgler breaks into my house
> and demands I do things HIS way I have a problem with it.
>
> *Jeffrey Watts <jeffrey.w.watts at gmail.com>* wrote:
>
> Brian, I'm assuming from your name that you're not Native American (the
> modern usage).  How did your forefathers come to this country?  Did they get
> a visa from the US consulate in their country?  Can you prove this?  The
> reality is that unless one's relatives arrived after 1924 they most likely
> just showed up here.
>
> I get what you're saying, but the term "illegal" is overused here to imply
> badness or criminality on the part of the immigrants.  When someone changes
> lanes without signaling, they're driving "illegally" but you don't hear
> people freaking out about that.  I'm not saying it's how things should be,
> but I am saying it's not the big Mexican Scare that the GOP and Lou Dobbs
> has been selling.  They're normal folks, just like us, that just want to be
> able to work to support their families.
>
> Instead of punishing them we ought to be addressing the real problem, which
> is our crappy immigration policies and an environment where employers aren't
> punished for violating the minimum wage, social security, and medicare
> laws.  If there weren't sweatshops, there'd be less border-jumping.  If we
> allowed more working class folks to immigrate, they're be less
> border-jumping.  If we didn't have hypocritical laws such as "wet foot / dry
> foot" there'd be less border-jumping.  You do know that illegal Cuban
> immigrants are given green cards?
>
> Anyhow, I do appreciate your reasoned rebuttal.  I actually agree with a
> lot of what you're saying, I'm just arguing that we need to address the
> source of the problem instead of the symptoms.
>
> Jeffrey
>
>
>


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oppression; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that
will reach to himself." -- Thomas Paine
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