OT: There goes the Solar neighborhood...literally

[Oren Beck]

Jack wrote:
> Ok, this is way OT, but ...
> they're making black holes in the lab now. Let's hope
> they don't let one out. :'o
> 
> http://news.com.com/In+labs+high-speed+collisions%2C+things+just+vanish/2100-7337_3-5644832.html?tag=nefd.top
> 
> While they say they are different from the matter
> gobbling killer black holes, I'm not sure I buy the
> story completely. This accelorator is used by my old
> alma mater in NY and I was studying this field there.
> Never got a chance to do any experiments with it
> though. It seems to me they are similar types of
> blackholes, but due to the tiny mass they are not
> dangerous and if they'd stop and think about it a bit
> they might even get some insight into why massive
> blackholes decay over time. As it is likely that this
> type of black hole is created on a massive scale in
> the creation of killer blackholes. Now if only there
> was an efficient way of generating these mini
> "blackholes" we might be able to make a powerful
> engine for interstellar travel, although I suspect one
> could take the accelerator and make an effective
> engine out of it. If the accelerator can propel gold
> atoms to >.99 lightspeed that should be enough to
> propel a spacecraft at relativistic speeds. Of course
> this thing is quite large and I'm not sure what the
> fuel requirements would be. Maybe we could use
> something like tin instead of gold. ;')
> 
> (sorry about the OT post, but this was just a fun and
> cool subject.)
> 
> Brian D.

Is it OT if the control software or modeling tools are Open Source?

According to the math I have seen for such experimental holes
they are in the realm of that engineering math trick question
about if  a bath tub at 98F or a Oxyacetylene torch flame at
6300F has more heat in it . Answer provable by trying to boil
a bath rub using a torch. Even with mass gain per velocity increment
those cold equations of scaling are not your friend for drivers.
Mass gain is still not a free lunch .

Now does anyone on this list have the real maths background to offer 
some intelligent
comments on which of us is on or off track here.

The hole in question of that article  is supposedly  incapable of 
ingesting more than
  it "burps" .Though if someone screws up on the math and it eats enough 
to keep growing ?
Arguably the difference between fiction and fact is mere applied 
testicular fortitude.
Like as not everything we thought we knew about discontinuous 
singularities soon
will be proved not quite so.


And I believe that the closest example we have for a true black hole is 
some government projects.

Oren

" I was told that higher math and booze do not mix as it's not smart to 
drink and derive"