gmail initiations

Thu Sep 9 08:48:58 CDT 2004

Actually, I think that Phoenician's post was aimed at my
tongue-in-cheek email and not yours. By the way the
Freedom of Information Act doesn't entitle you to get 
information on other people's information such as 
SSNs or tax returns, unless that person is a public official.
On top of which they are "supposed" to black out certain
parts of those documents which you can get, like SSN's.
Or were you not referring to the FOIA? But what bother's
me the most is that counties sell my information to political 
candidates.  But that's another rant. entirely.

-----Original Message-----
From: Allen Darrah 

Well I don't want anyone to steal my money, so no.  And the government already has my social security # of course because they gave it to me and then can get my pin at any time so really nothing I do online isn't able to be discovered anyway so why worry about it?  And no, I'm really not worried about privacy.  

Not to mention:  if anyone in here wanted to they could go to their local court house and file some paperwork and get my social anyway along with a ton of other information.  I could do the same to all of you.  Fun, isn't it?  This thing called free information?  Everyone wants everything to be free (owned property of, say, Microsoft, or some music artist) except for what few things we "think" we own, like the number branded on us when we're born.  Well, that # is on loan anyway.  If you think you have ever actually "owned" anything in your life, especially your privacy, then you're just silly and you probably already know that, you just never thought of it.

So the bottom line is:  if somebody out there wants to read my e-mails and has the ability to do it then that's great.  Whatever free e-mail service I use isn't going to have any effect on somebody who's skillful enough to crack, say, Hotmail's e-mail systems in the first place.  I don't know any launch codes or have knowledge of who's going to win the Super Bowl so I'll bet nobody is all that interested anyway.  My e-mails consist of me finding out if we're all going to play some D&D on Saturday night or something similarly inane  Especially the government.  Anything they want to know about me, or you, they already know; more importantly, they couldn't care less.

>From: "Phoenician" <Phoenician at phoenixcolony.com> 
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> 
>So let me get this straight, because you do not do anything illegal is 
>good enough reason to allow people to collect information and not be 
>concerned about your privacy?   Hmm Well if that's the case, would you 
>mind posting you SSN plus your PIN to your bank account? 
> 
>________________________________ 
> 
>From: kclug-bounces at kclug.org [mailto:kclug-bounces at kclug.org] On Behalf 
>Of Brian Densmore 
>Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 8:58 AM 
>To: Allen Darrah; kclug at kclug.org 
>Subject: RE: gmail initiations 
> 
> 
>Dear Mr. Darrah, 
> 
>   Expect a visit from our officers from Homeland Security. We are very 
>concerned about your 
>unpatriotic activities and will be watching you closely from our spy 
>satellite with the GPS tracker 
>we installed secretly in your car with our secret court wiretapping and 
>surveillance warrant. 
> 
>Sincerely, 
> 
>The Feds 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Allen Darrah 
> 
> I want it.  I've never been worried about privacy.  Mostly 
>because I don't do anything illegal.  Except speeding of course.  But I 
>don't send a lot of e-mail about that.  Except for this one of course. 
> 
> Al 
> 
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