Thank you very much! The next time this happens I will look in the /var/lock folder for the file to delete. That's what I didn't know - where the lock file was! Thanks again, Jon > Uh.... I really think the lock defaults to /var/lock..... somwhere. > this has been years since I messed with, just delete the file. After it > is gone it will either unlock, or inexpliciably crash.