more Sponsorship

[Shayne Patton]

jonathan wrote:

>Is there any other groups like that here in KC? Are you guys seeking
>members? How long you guys been a group?
>
>Jon O
>
>
>On Tue, 2004-04-13 at 08:47, Brian Kelsay wrote:
>  
>
>>I'm going to say that maybe he meant "security professional" or "threat analyst" or maybe even 
"intrusion specialist".  If you are wanting to be professional, don't let anybody hear hacker or 
cracker fall from your lips.  It just gives them an opportunity to foul up what you mean.
>>
>>How is it you want to sponsor the LUG?  That might require some sort of a vote after we know what 
you want to do.  Voting may be a little more organized than what we are used to. :-)
>>
>>
>>Brian Kelsay
>>
>>    
>>
>>>>>"Brian Densmore" <> 04/13/04 08:23AM >>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Shayne Patton 
>>>
>>>Linux/Windows integration on networks initially and later "ethical 
>>>cracker" if I'm up to it.  :)
>>>      
>>>
>>"ethical" and "cracker" have diametrically opposed meanings.
>>If you're going to use technical words you should be careful 
>>to use the correct ones. I'm sure you meant to say
>>"ethical hacker"
>>
>>def: 
>>
>>cracker - (n) A criminal hacker 
>>hacker  - (n) A person who takes things apart or investigates things 
>>              to determine how they work.
>>ethical - (adj) To do the right thing.
>>
>>These are my own interpretations of the words' definitions. If you
>>disagree with them, look them up in a real dictionary. 
>>
>>Brian
>>
>>P.S. I would strongly advise against "ethical hacking without permission".
>>Purely based on my own desire for freedom, as in freedom to be out of the
>>criminal legal (I won't use justice as that seems to be more rare these days)
>>system. It's one thing to be right, it's another convincing 14 other people
>>it's right (12 jurors+prosecutor+judge).
>>
>>
>>
>>    
>>
>
>
>  
>
OK, yes Brian, you're absoloutely correct.  I did mean "ethical 
hacking".  It's more fun to me though (being from anglo descent - a 
shining example of "caucasian") to refer to myself as a kracker.  So you 
see, it was somewhat a PUN. 

We, white-tiger-security, have worked together in the past.  However, 
the company we worked for - Micrologic Business  Solutions/Systems (MBS) 
- got bought out and some of us stayed and some of us left.  Well, now, 
almost all of us are "outa there" and we decided to start up 
www.white-tiger-security.com . 

Some of the guys work for Comptia ( the makers of A+, Linux+,Network+, 
Security+, etc.) helping decide what subject matter should appear on 
these tests.  I will probably go to Chicago next week to offer up 
suggestions on the rewrite of the Linux+ test.  One of the ways we could 
contribute would be through setting up vouchers for y'all to take these 
tests.  I know, I know "the 133t don't need to prove it w/ a 
certification".  However, HR people and potential customers who are 
rather less than 133t, view these certifications as a way of gauging how 
good you are (or something).  Plus, it's a good thing for a n00b to have 
on a resume.  Anyway, I don't really believe in certification 
personally, but if I can get a free certification for something I 
already love and work with.........why not?  This is one thing we can 
offer.  There are probably other things too, but most the guys are 
Windoze engineers.  I'm the only member here, so they asked me to see 
what you guys thought.

What are some things (and please be reasonable) that you guys would 
request from a sponsor?

Universally,
Shayne