Outlook replacement

[Benjamin Fisher]

First of all, thanks to all of those who have responded with information.  I've taken a look at the 
RFCs again.  I know pretty much what the protocols are and what they do, but I did learn a thing or 
two (a good thing).  Justin: I wasn't flustered.  The discussion, upon multiple replies, just went 
from exchange to OS War Talk.  Which is okay, but I wanted to throw everyone back on this 
discussion rather abruptly (which I see I succeeded in - heh) to see if I can figure out exactly 
what their doing over in Info. Services here.  For those interested, and one alluded to the fact, 
the college is William Jewell College.  We're a private Christian college and don't have a whole 
lot of money.  I like it here, but it is a liberal arts college, and technology isn't widely 
accepted to be a part of the "liberal arts" inasmuch as pretty much everything else on campus.  
Actually I think we've only had actual internet access for 6 years or something like that (two or 
three years before I !
got here).  And my first semester here was the first time the proxy server was instituted (grr).

The IP range they are using, I think, is 204.185.x.x.  I don't really see anything on the outside 
much as part of my normal day, but I've been able to do some running around (figuratively speaking 
of course) and figure that much out.  There are some 204.185.116.x and some 204.185.119.x that I 
have been able to find.

I don't think I've ever had as hard a time in communicating a problem/situation.  But the shear 
fact is that I can't tell, nor is the admin. willing to tell me, what is going on.  As far I can 
tell, it is like this:

+-----------------------------------------------+
|                                               |
|        +---------------------------+          |
|        |                           |          |
|        |    +-------+           +--+------+   |
| +----+ |    |       |           |Internal |   |
| | Me |-+----+ Proxy +           |Server   |   |
| |    |      |       |           |         |   |
| +----+      +-----+-+           +----+----+   |
|                   |   Intranet       |        |
+-------------------+------------------+--------+
                    |                  |
             +------+-----+            |
             | Outside    +------------+
             | Internet   |
             +------------+

Although, when I asked one of the other administrative personnel, I was told that it "must be a 
misconfiguration on the proxy, not the mail server".  Basically.  Which would insinuate that the 
mail server is both in and outside _via_ the proxy.  Meaning I send it something via SMTP, it goes 
to the proxy, it goes outside.  I don't think that's the case, though.  I don't think any of them 
singlely know what the entire network is up to at any point in time.  As far as I am concerned, at 
this point, it's some sort of authentication problem.  I'm unsure, however.  The admin., by the 
way, is no microsoft-basher.  More of a microsoft-heralder.  Whatever lame excuses they have, I 
have yet to actually figure out what the real problem is.  IMAP I'm guessing, from what someone 
said, is turned off?  Someone said they logged in remotely, and that they had looked at the WJC 
server(s).  That'd make sense, since I can't even receive mail through it internally.  I have to 
use POP, since IMAP!
 does not work.  He's said he's turned off POP on the outside.  That should not be a problem.  
Using SMTP, and any authentication type supported by Evolution, I can send nothing.  If I turn off 
authentication alltogether, I can send internally with SMTP.

I tried to send via SMTP by way of telnetting in and using the SMTP commands, but I get an 
"Undeliverable" when I try.  Same thing as when I try to send with Evolution.  By the way, for 
whoever was on the server earlier, there are two of them.  Shaman is just one of them.  The other 
is regent.  I'm not sure of the IP's.  For some reason I cannot pull down my mail via Shaman 
anymore... have to use the new one.  Shaman is exchange 5.0 and regent is exchange 5.5.  From what 
I can tell.

Okay.  Time to sleep.  It's 6:30AM and I should probably go to sleep before today gets to be too 
far into today.

Ben
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